Schwartz is up there as well. Obviously Priest.

I mean the answer is probably Len Dawson. He was traded by Pittsburgh to Cleveland before Cleveland cut him and the Chiefs (Texans) signed him.

But in the modern era, your top three are probably Thuney, Schwartz and Priest in some order.

He's an ERFA -- I can't imagine he's going anywhere and if he does, it won't be for enough to earn us a comp pick.

WTF would anyone spend this much energy on something they have ZERO control over?

I'll trust the coaching staff that got us here and not worry about it otherwise. Strange idea I know.

Yes. like the fact that Worthy got better in the offense as the season went on, as did Dhop and that guys were finally where Pat expected them to be.

You guys are f'n clowns at times. They didn't change the offense. The offense just executed better.

If you think Caliendo has been good you don't know a ****ing thing about football.

Kind of hard to compare the LT play in the 2 games Clay showed because of different gameplans and different QBs. You don't think Mahomes would have run forward throught that huge hole left there by the DE rushing so wide? Or Andy gameplanning a RB getting open through that gap?

That being said, yes, Thuney has looked better at LT. I'm just going to assume that the coaching staff knows what they are doing and will make the best choice for this team to get back to the SB.

You're being lured into a pit with hidden escape hatch for the lurie

Again, the argument is more about the longer developing plays. It's about the time it takes for certain routes to work.

Yes, the Chiefs did throw some deep/intermediate balls against Pitt but they were all one cut and go routes. And the reason you know that is simpe:

3 deep balls -- average time to throw: 2.19 seconds
8 intermediate -- TTT: 2.42 seconds

Contrast that to the 9 balls behind the LOS? 2.55 seconds.

The deep and intermediate balls took LESS time to throw than his passes behind the LOS in that game.

That's CLEARLY pre-determined read and fire plays. That's spamming shit you know works when you know the defense hasn't figured them out. 2.19 seconds to throw a deep shot isn't a 'long developing play' because we weren't running 'em. We weren't using those longer developing deep routes.

And if we go out there against the Chargers and Buffalo (most likely scenario, IMO) and those teams - who know us EXTREMELY well - are going to let us run those super easy concepts to get the ball downfield in under 2.5 seconds, we'll beat the absolute shit out of them.

But I just don't think they will. And if/when they show that they're not going to let us spam those same concepts repeatedly, we'll want to bust out some of the Cover 3 beaters and other longer developing concepts that allow us to get to 3+ seconds in the pocket to find the occasional shot look.

But there's just no question that when we shaved a full second off our average TTT on deep balls and nearly a full second off intermediate balls that we were doing something very different in our downfield passing game. And look at any season of PMs career - the numbers are roughly similar. Always around 3.3 to 3.5 on deep shots, 3.1 to 3.25 on intermediate shots.

We are 3.1 to 3.5 on intermediate to deep balls for the entirety of Mahomes career. A sample size of literally THOUSANDS of attempts. And in that game we had those numbers at 2.4 and 2.2 respectively.

Yes, something was very very VERY clearly different.

The offense has executed at extremely high levels for entire seasons throughout PMs career.

And it DOESN'T operate at '2.1 seconds on a deep ball and 2.4 seconds on an intermediate ball' levels.

That has to be schematic.

But hell man, if it's just pure execution -- bully. Because we'll absolutely obliterate everyone this post-season if we've found a downfield easy button that allows us to rip balls deep on a timeline this team has never so much as brushed up against in the past.

It just really feels to me like Reid, with short prep periods and the finish line in sight, said "**** this, just focus on getting these 5 concepts right and lets bury these guys who we clearly have more talent then..."

I just don't think that's a repeatable formula against the Chargers and Bills.

(which, again, is why I hope Houston wins that Chargers game. Because man, we will STEAMROLL Houston and can do so in essentially the same manner)

The overwhelming consensus from the Chiefs youtube community is DJ done well enough and he should start the next game. We will likely know which direction the wind is blowing by this time next week I guess.

FWIW, some schmuck asked Matt Derrick about this for his Q&A. TL;DR, he thinks they'll give Humphries a go but won't be surprised if they stick with Thuney-Caliendo.

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HYPERBOLE!!!!!

(Isn't this exactly where the 'Pro-Humphries' camp sits right now?)

I mean if the staff is even considering Humphries, our side of this argument wins. Because they are viewing this exactly as we are. That the DJ/Thuney pairing would allow us to do some things offensively that the Thuney/Caliendo pairing doesn't.

They ALSO see it as a best case scenario or they wouldn't even bother dicking with it.

But if DJ can't get there, they won't do it.

The fact that the staff continues to pursue the former over the latter suggests that they're seeing what we're seeing. And certainly corroborates the idea that they have taken some things off the table with the latter.

This is what the Pro Caliendo camp fails to understand. If DJ wasn't the best option they wouldn't even think about ****ing with this when they could be spending time crunching film for playoff teams.

This depends on what type of FA. Do undrafted rookie free agents count? Bc if so you gotta put Emmitt Thomas and Deron Cherry up there.

Dawson, Priest and Schwartz are the obvious ones. You gotta put Matheiu up there for the impact he made here. Marcus Allen is definitely on the list. So is Brian Waters. Casey Wiegmann and Tony Richardson as well.

Nick Lowery should be high up there too. He was Butker far before Butker. Was here 14 years, is still the franchises scoring leader and was the most accurate kicker in NFL history the day he retired.

Exactly what I said last night. If we are wrong, Andy isn't even considering playing Humphries.

But he is, so we aren't wrong.