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dirk digler 08-16-2016 02:44 PM

Maybe it is more than money with Berry. Maybe he is pissed about that insurance clause the Chiefs were wanting him to pay.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-16-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12371151)
Not all players go through a cancer battle and receive the support he received from fans.

Not to mention the support from teammates. Like Justin Houston showing his #29 t shirt after every sack.

dirk digler 08-16-2016 02:47 PM

Reid is backing Berry so people shouldn't be to upset.

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“I’ve seen about every situation there is with this. I want the best for the guy. I want him to make as much money as they can doing this because these careers don’t last forever.

DJ's left nut 08-16-2016 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 12371188)
Reid is backing Berry so people shouldn't be to upset.

There's no better opportunity for Reid to play good cop, bad cop than when the GM doesn't come up with the contract that Berry wants.

Reid's a player's coach and he always has been. His reaction would never have been in question.

But again, if Berry tweaks a hammy or that secondary doesn't gel, I bet you Reid's not gonna think "oh well, EB is gonna make bank so it's all good", nor will his teammates.

Halfcan 08-16-2016 02:52 PM

Yesterday it was Ford - who is the worst player on the team-the guy is dumb, can't tackle, has no heart, scared to hit, and has no talent except a quick first step.

Today it is Berry. He is a selfish prick that hates KC and their fans, only cares about money, lazy, skipping camp so he will be fresh for his "new" team next year, and is basically a disrespectful mercenary that is only playing for a paycheck.

Got to love the CP daily dog piles.

i wonder who it will be tomorrow?

-King- 08-16-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12371136)
I have a feeling the NFL won't allow Franchise Tagged players to sit out training camp in the next CBA.

It's a stupid loophole that helps no one.

How is it a loophole? They're not under contract. Until they sign it, they're rightfully under no obligation to do anything.
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-King- 08-16-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12371189)
There's no better opportunity for Reid to play good cop, bad cop than when the GM doesn't come up with the contract that Berry wants.

Reid's a player's coach and he always has been. His reaction would never have been in question.

But again, if Berry tweaks a hammy or that secondary doesn't gel, I bet you Reid's not gonna think "oh well, EB is gonna make bank so it's all good", nor will his teammates.

And if Berry had torn his Achilles on day one of training camp, everyone in the team including coaches would have said he would have been better off sitting training camp out and rejoining the team when they went back to KC.
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Urc Burry 08-16-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12371174)
Give me a quote, a Instagram post, Twitter, anything that shows his passion for the Chiefs and that "family" love.

Shit, I can give you 100 just from a rookie like KeiVarae Russell alone. As the emotional leader of this team, I just expect a little more love. Is that not fair?

Berry has been off social media for years. He has always said he wants to be a chief for life. I believe even after we didn't get the deal done. How is that not good enough? Who gives a shit if he's not making tons of tweets about just how faithful he is

And I can't blame him for sitting out. I'm sure I'd do the same thing if I was in his shoes. No one wants to be at TC and I'm sure Houston would have done the same thing if we didn't strike a deal with him while he was on the tag

threebag 08-16-2016 03:03 PM

:popcorn:

DJ's left nut 08-16-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12371199)
And if Berry had torn his Achilles on day one of training camp, everyone in the team including coaches would have said he would have been better off sitting training camp out and rejoining the team when they went back to KC.
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And yet they haven't put Maclin in bubble wrap. Or Smith. Or Kelce, etc...

If coaches believed that teams were better off by healthy players not participating in camp, then healthy players wouldn't be participating in camp.

Coaches know it's important to have these guys here and every day that Berry misses hurts the team and what they're trying to accomplish together.

-King- 08-16-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12371174)
Give me a quote, a Instagram post, Twitter, anything that shows his passion for the Chiefs and that "family" love.

Shit, I can give you 100 just from a rookie like KeiVarae Russell alone. As the emotional leader of this team, I just expect a little more love. Is that not fair?

ROFL ROFL This can't be life. Judging someone from what they post on their Instagram.
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jjchieffan 08-16-2016 03:10 PM

So.....Is there any news on training camp, other than Berry isn't there? FFS, this has been going on for 100 posts. Thanks for derailing the training camp thread DJ.

DJ's left nut 08-16-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12371211)
So.....Is there any news on training camp, other than Berry isn't there? FFS, this has been going on for 100 posts. Thanks for derailing the training camp thread DJ.

My pleasure.

Jamaal Charles is off the PUP and has re-joined the team.

Stupid ass; he should stay home so he doesn't get hurt. Gotta worry about himself, afterall. Business decision for a dude with no guaranteed money this year who could get cut next year.

staylor26 08-16-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12371201)
Berry has been off social media for years. He has always said he wants to be a chief for life. I believe even after we didn't get the deal done. How is that not good enough? Who gives a shit if he's not making tons of tweets about just how faithful he is

And I can't blame him for sitting out. I'm sure I'd do the same thing if I was in his shoes. No one wants to be at TC and I'm sure Houston would have done the same thing if we didn't strike a deal with him while he was on the tag

"Looks at username"

He's supposed to be the emotional team leader, and I have higher expectations of him. He's just always seemed like he sees himself as a football player who plays for the Chiefs vs. "a Chief". That's fine if he feels that way because it's the truth, but he's no Ed Reed (just in terms of leadership). If he's not really that type of leader, the he's been an underachiever on the field and in the locker room.

I love Berryv despite all of this. He was one of my all-time favorite prospects and I JIMP the day we drafted him. Him somehow ending up in a position where he walks is just the epitome of how dissapponting his career has been in many different ways.

-King- 08-16-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12371207)
And yet they haven't put Maclin in bubble wrap. Or Smith. Or Kelce, etc...

If coaches believed that teams were better off by healthy players not participating in camp, then healthy players wouldn't be participating in camp.

Coaches know it's important to have these guys here and every day that Berry misses hurts the team and what they're trying to accomplish together.

Those players are under contract...

If Maclin contract ended last year and be didn't show up to TC, I'm sure the coaches would understand.

Reid has been around the game for a few decades. He's seen more than his fair share of career ending/altering injuries. He understands the business side of things and why players hold out. I think his comments regarding Berry were authentic. He knows that one training camp practice could end Berry's career so why should Berry risk it? He knows the scheme, is physically fit, and the coaches trust him to be ready when the season starts.
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