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Easy 6 03-12-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15582618)
I've grown so damn tired of teams game plans being double Tyreek AND Kelce and dare the Chiefs to run at all costs. Tampa Bay just pinned their ears back on Mahomes and teed off because we couldn't run the ball for shit. Get some BAMF that are 325+ across the board on the offensive line and lets start imposing our will and shoving it down peoples throats. Mahomes with an elite running game would be unstoppable.

My guess is we're about to get what you're asking for, it seems pretty clear that Veach has had enough of half measures and good enoughs... he's swinging for the fence now

Chris Meck 03-12-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15582611)
If they really wanted Reiff, I think he'd already be here, at least for a visit.

They've got something else cooking.

THIS.

Reiff would be basically a lateral move, but one that would most likely be less expensive.

The fact that we don't appear to be doing that means Veach is looking UPGRADE.

Who's that? Who's available that's a no question upgrade?

Trent ****ing Williams, that's who.

Chris Meck 03-12-2021 03:52 PM

Veach rebuilt an entire shitty defense in one offseason. Cut Berry, ditched Houston and Ford.

I think he can rebuild an offensive line and find a pass rusher in this offseason.

The Franchise 03-12-2021 03:56 PM

I wonder if they’ll hand the starting RG job back over to LDT or if he’ll have to compete with someone.

htismaqe 03-12-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15582618)
I've grown so damn tired of teams game plans being double Tyreek AND Kelce and dare the Chiefs to run at all costs. Tampa Bay just pinned their ears back on Mahomes and teed off because we couldn't run the ball for shit. Get some BAMF that are 325+ across the board on the offensive line and lets start imposing our will and shoving it down peoples throats.

They're going to take steps in the right direction but you're not going to get your wish, at least not completely.

1. That's not what Andy Reid wants in his offensive linemen.

2. Even if we had the horses up front, Andy has to use them. I looked back over the last 5 years and Andy has as many games where RB1 ran the ball 10 times or less as he has games where they ran 25 times or more. He just doesn't commit to the run on a consistent basis.

Hammock Parties 03-12-2021 04:01 PM

DID WE SIGN SOME PIECE OF SHIT YET

htismaqe 03-12-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15582625)
My guess is we're about to get what you're asking for, it seems pretty clear that Veach has had enough of half measures and good enoughs... he's swinging for the fence now

They're most certainly going to improve in pass blocking.

I wouldn't expect them to completely redo the line into a bunch of maulers though, that's not what Reid wants.

Hammock Parties 03-12-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15582633)
Veach rebuilt an entire shitty defense in one offseason. Cut Berry, ditched Houston and Ford.

I think he can rebuild an offensive line and find a pass rusher in this offseason.

They're going to start Niang and LDT. Allegretti and Kilgore could also possible start.

I bet they only bring in three or four players, and only two that will be seen as splash plays. A first or second round pick and and a big name FA.

Ain't shit.

Chris Meck 03-12-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15582644)
They're going to take steps in the right direction but you're not going to get your wish, at least not completely.

1. That's not what Andy Reid wants in his offensive linemen.

2. Even if we had the horses up front, Andy has to use them. I looked back over the last 5 years and Andy has as many games where RB1 ran the ball 10 times or less as he has games where they ran 25 times or more. He just doesn't commit to the run on a consistent basis.

You don't HAVE to run the ball a lot.

You just have to be ABLE to run the ball when you feel like it.

A real and true threat to make a defense pay for light boxes will make all the difference.

Chieftain 03-12-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15582618)
I've grown so damn tired of teams game plans being double Tyreek AND Kelce and dare the Chiefs to run at all costs. Tampa Bay just pinned their ears back on Mahomes and teed off because we couldn't run the ball for shit. Get some BAMF that are 325+ across the board on the offensive line and lets start imposing our will and shoving it down peoples throats.

Yes. Building a strong OLine would make our offense more potent as opposed to getting that 2nd receiver. You need balance but it starts with the OLine. I would rather us invest on 2 quality linemen in free agency than a guy like Corey Davis.

The Franchise 03-12-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15582648)
They're going to start Niang and LDT. Allegretti and Kilgore could also possible start.

I bet they only bring in three or four players, and only two that will be seen as splash plays. A first or second round pick and and a big name FA.

Ain't shit.

Kilgore is a FA and isn’t coming back.

Chris Meck 03-12-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 15582654)
Yes. Building a strong OLine would make our offense more potent as opposed to getting that 2nd receiver. You need balance but it starts with the OLine. I would rather us invest on 2 quality linemen in free agency than a guy like Corey Davis.

Well, I think they go hand in hand, but having a decent offensive line makes your skill position players better.

Easy 6 03-12-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15582647)
They're most certainly going to improve in pass blocking.

I wouldn't expect them to completely redo the line into a bunch of maulers though, that's not what Reid wants.

Right, I should've been a little more clear

I'm not calling for 5 maulers because we all know thats just not what Reid prefers... but I do think we're going to see somewhat more balance in the new group

ChiefBlueCFC 03-12-2021 04:12 PM

Have we signed Trent Williams, Kenny Golladay, Trey Hendrickson, JuJu, Jonnu Smith and Bud Dupree yet?

Dante84 03-12-2021 04:14 PM

Is our new LT on this chart somewhere? I hope so!

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