but drafting a QB bust might set this franchise back years!

like imagine if we had to pay a QB 19 million a year and he turned out to be mediocre

You are correct. Never up, never in. I get it. However, so much of the Chiefs predicament has to do with Luck, and I don't mean the QB of the same name.

They weren't going to get Aikman from the Cowboys in that draft. They weren't getting Manning from the colts in that draft. They weren't getting Luck from the colts in that draft. They weren't getting Eli in that draft. Don't even bring up anything associated with Brady. That's complete luck. Hell, he was passed over for 6 rounds by all 32 teams, so that doesn't count. So, really, were talking about Rothlisberger and Warner as the only multiple SB appearance QB's that we could've had, and Warner was total luck as well. Quite frankly, Big Ben hasn't really created a dynasty, so it really boils down to teams falling into two categories for creating dynasties. One are the teams that just so happened to suck horribly the year right before a once in a generation QB came out, and the others are those that took a shot on a guy in later rounds and through injuries or just plain luck, the guy panned out (see Warner). Now, who knows, the chiefs could find themselves with a gen in Bray. It'll take an injury to see it this year most likely however.

I also admit that there was the one year that the Chiefs blew it. 1987. Plain and simple, they had it in front of them, and they blew it. Having said that, they weren't getting Elway, and Marino and Kelly never won shit as far as SB's go.

So, to sum up, yeah, I agree with you. I just think luck and circumstance play a much larger role than you do.

So the Chiefs should've taken Geno or EJ in your opinion?

If you draft a shitty QB and you end up 2-14 well guess what....you get a chance to draft another one pretty quick.

Or you can go 9-7 and draft a guard.

Let me try to repeat that question to see if you and Hamas can actually answer it with a simple yes or no. Should the Chiefs have drafted Geno Smith or EJ Manuel in the last draft?

Plus, according to Hamas, you can't judge them right away, so you certainly wouldn't want to draft another one too quickly.

Given the other options, yes.

I thinks it's really tough to predict the future. I also believe the E.J. has an opportunity to be a beast.

hmmm... yeah, wasn't he supplemental draft though? brb

yep, supplemental. doesn't count?

edit: ROFL

yeah, technically, the pick wasn't cleveland's. still pretty much a cleveland draft pick though. farking technicalities

I disagree. It's not just bad luck. This franchise is legitimately QBphobic. It's been run by QBphobes. It hired other QBphobes. And I don't care what Reid and Dorsey were like before KC. Until they go out and draft some QBs, THEY are just continuing the tradition of QBphobic drafting that has been a staple of this franchise since Blackledge.

Let's forget even about 1st round QBs. The Chiefs have drafted three total QBs since 1998.

Let me repeat that again. As shitty and abysmal as the Chiefs have been at the QB position in that span from 1998-2013, they only attempted to draft a QB THREE times. In ANY round. Three times. James Killian, Brodie Croyle, and Ricky Stanzi. Three.

That's equal to the number of FBs they've drafted in that same span (George Layne, Shane Bannan, and Braden Wilson). It's equal to the number of picks they've spent on kickers and punters in that span (Dustin Colquitt, Justin Medlock, Ryan Succop).

That's 15 drafts. With the problems they've had at the QB position in those 15 years, only THREE times did they view a QB in ANY ROUND AT ANY PICK worthy of the best selection they could have made for the team?

I'm not even going to tally that as a percentage of their picks, but it's gotta be abysmal. That's at least 100 draft picks. And only 3 of them were spent on QBs.

That's not bad luck at all. That's ****ing stupidity. It's an ignorance and fear of the QB position.

I know Carl was at the head of 10 of those drafts. What's the excuse with Pioli and now Dorsey? Why are we still continuing to hire bozos for the front office who don't ever ****ing draft any QBs?

I really hope Dorsey does the right thing this year. Christ, it's not like the QB depth is that much better than the depth we've got at other positions. If anything, it's worse because there's absolutely no reason why we should be paying Daniel that much money or putting any amount of trust at all in Tyler Bray.

Over Eric Fisher?

I mean, seriously, if we're going to use hindsight here, the answer is overwhelmingly yes. Ask any team out there and I'll bet they'd say the same thing after only one year.

The franchise also keeps hiring retread head coaches.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we keep getting retread QBs.

The one year we got a n00b head coach, he was overruled by a dumb GM, too.

Always find something new and odd on CP. Unless you're actually talking about a collection of paper

Heh

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