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Ceej 11-11-2009 09:32 AM

Slim chance I may pick this up after class tonight.

Priest31kc 11-11-2009 09:39 AM

One gripe about this game: the invites. Why did they change it? It was soooooo much easier and quicker than it is now. AND, its not even working. My friend and I tried inviting each other like 20 times, and it didn't work. Hopefully they fix this because I enjoy playing w/ my friends.

BigChiefFan 11-11-2009 09:45 AM

I can't get online this morning. Ugh.

Shag 11-11-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 6253168)
I agree with you on you're earlier post on "camping". It's strategy for crying out loud. However, what you're saying here is not the case. I'm a veteran of hardcore on COD4, I know how it works. Also, me and three other friends were playing MW2 hardcore last night and this was working for two of them and not for me and the other dude. I might not be making myself clear on what's happening. You know when you get killed or kill somebody it pops up an "acknowledgement" that you did it and who it was that you either killed or killed you? That's what I'm NOT getting.

I'm one level short of unlocking hardcore, but I imagine what you are describing is intended behavior. In COD4, you did not get any sort of kill confirmation (such as a points display, as in normal mode), which is likely the point. Hardcore takes away all the visual crutches of the game, one of which is those displays.

As for camping being a strategy, that's kind of BS, IMHO. Sitting in a corner and waiting for someone to run by you is not strategy. Moving slowly and tactically, finding good fire points that cover lots of ground or key contact points, working with a team to effectively cover each other - those are strategies.

I think a lot of people think if you're not running-and-gunning that you're camping. But, there's a big gap between run-and-gun and camping - that's the type of play that makes for the best matches, IMHO.

johnnykev 11-11-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 6253251)
I'm one level short of unlocking hardcore, but I imagine what you are describing is intended behavior. In COD4, you did not get any sort of kill confirmation (such as a points display, as in normal mode), which is likely the point. Hardcore takes away all the visual crutches of the game, one of which is those displays.

As for camping being a strategy, that's kind of BS, IMHO. Sitting in a corner and waiting for someone to run by you is not strategy. Moving slowly and tactically, finding good fire points that cover lots of ground or key contact points, working with a team to effectively cover each other - those are strategies.

I think a lot of people think if you're not running-and-gunning that you're camping. But, there's a big gap between run-and-gun and camping - that's the type of play that makes for the best matches, IMHO.

It's not "intended behavior" man, it worked fine on hardcore during the same games for me, but not for MVChiefFan. So it's not something that everyone's experiencing as "intended" once again. So anyone with actual knowledge rather than some assumption that's obviously wrong that could help out, that would be appreciated.

As for you saying camping isn't a strategy and it's BS in your opinion, try telling that to anyone in a combat situation. They're probably gonna say it's a good idea. They like high K/D ratios in the armed services I'm betting.

Sitting in a corner is a strategy, it's not what we do, but it's a strategy. Honestly, it sounds like you've been lit up by some folks sitting in a corner and you're just sour about it. That's cool man, it pisses me off too, but I work around it and don't police someone that chooses to play that way.

MVChiefFan 11-11-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 6253251)
I'm one level short of unlocking hardcore, but I imagine what you are describing is intended behavior. In COD4, you did not get any sort of kill confirmation (such as a points display, as in normal mode), which is likely the point. Hardcore takes away all the visual crutches of the game, one of which is those displays.

As for camping being a strategy, that's kind of BS, IMHO. Sitting in a corner and waiting for someone to run by you is not strategy. Moving slowly and tactically, finding good fire points that cover lots of ground or key contact points, working with a team to effectively cover each other - those are strategies.

I think a lot of people think if you're not running-and-gunning that you're camping. But, there's a big gap between run-and-gun and camping - that's the type of play that makes for the best matches, IMHO.


Several things to disagree with here. For one, people call "camping" anything that's not running around like a douchebag and shooting from the hip. I wish people would quit trying to police how other people play. I paid $60 just like everyone else if I wanna sit in a f****** corner and shoot people and go 5-1 then that's what I'm gonna do.

As for the other thing, I don't know what you guys aren't understanding here. I'm the king of hardcore, I know how it works like the back of my hand. In COD4 when you shoot somebody it says in big white letters at the bottom of your screen in "you killed so and so". In this game when you kill someone it pulls up their title and says "you killed so and so". Mine is not saying this and my two clan buddies screens ARE saying this. This isn't about HUDS or "intended behavior". This is a problem that I need fixed.

BigChiefFan 11-11-2009 10:12 AM

Anybody else having problems with the games server? I can't get online to play this game, but I can get online everywhere else. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Priest31kc 11-11-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6253279)
Anybody else having problems with the games server? I can't get online to play this game, but I can get online everywhere else. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

I havent been on yet today, but Im on the PS3 Call of Duty forum, and everyone is having problems getting on.

Mr. Plow 11-11-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6253279)
Anybody else having problems with the games server? I can't get online to play this game, but I can get online everywhere else. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG


Just a wild guess, but it might just be traffic on their servers - which I expected, but was pleasantly surprised I didn't have any issues yesterday.

Mr. Plow 11-11-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 6253212)
Slim chance I may pick this up after class tonight.


Priorities man...priorities.

Shag 11-11-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnykev (Post 6253263)
It's not "intended behavior" man, it worked fine on hardcore during the same games for me, but not for MVChiefFan. So it's not something that everyone's experiencing as "intended" once again. So anyone with actual knowledge rather than some assumption that's obviously wrong that could help out, that would be appreciated.

As for you saying camping isn't a strategy and it's BS in your opinion, try telling that to anyone in a combat situation. They're probably gonna say it's a good idea. They like high K/D ratios in the armed services I'm betting.

Sitting in a corner is a strategy, it's not what we do, but it's a strategy. Honestly, it sounds like you've been lit up by some folks sitting in a corner and you're just sour about it. That's cool man, it pisses me off too, but I work around it and don't police someone that chooses to play that way.

Wow, what's up your ass? Piss off.

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

No badge/title displays on kills in that video.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Or that one.

And I can guarantee you nobody in combat sits with their back to a wall, waiting for someone to walk in front of them. Military TEAMS move as an organized unit, with a purpose.

I don't give two shits about campers - they don't bother me, and are easy to kill. And who's policing anyone? Play however you want - I don't care. Doesn't change the fact that camping is not a "strategy".

DBOSHO 11-11-2009 10:41 AM

Camping takes all the fun out of the game. If everyone stayed in a corner and waited, everygame would last 15 minutes. Its strategy, but its a bullshit strategy that takes next to no skill to pull off.

Bottom line...camping is for pussies.

johnnykev 11-11-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shag (Post 6253312)
Wow, what's up your ass? Piss off.

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

No badge/title displays on kills in that video.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Or that one.

And I can guarantee you nobody in combat sits with their back to a wall, waiting for someone to walk in front of them. Military TEAMS move as an organized unit, with a purpose.

I don't give two shits about campers - they don't bother me, and are easy to kill. And who's policing anyone? Play however you want - I don't care. Doesn't change the fact that camping is not a "strategy".

Apparently you do care how people play or you wouldn't have posted what you did. As for the videos, that's what my buddy is seeing, but the names and titles pop up on mine. So maybe my brother and I are the odd ones out on this as his pops up too. You haven't played hardcore, so your assumptions have no purpose in aiding what's going on here.

You're right, I highly doubt the military sits with their back to a wall waiting for someone to walk in front of them. But I guarantee they watch sight lines waiting for enemies to pass while having their backs watched by walls or corners or other soldiers and that's what MVCheifFan and I do but then get called out by douchebags for camping.

Maybe you and I have a problem in our definitions. And if that's the case, I apologize, but I don't take back what I said. What's a strategy in this game? It's an intentional way of playing, with a purpose. Even those guys that sit in a corner have a purpose for what they're doing. Ignore them, shoot them, I don't care. They're playing with what they think works for them, so they're using a strategy. But maybe you've got some other definition.

This stick up my ass is from people like you jumping on us for how we play. It's ridiculous to assume I'm gonna play like you. I don't jump down your throat for how you play, so don't jump down mine for how I play.

MVChiefFan 11-11-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shag (Post 6253312)
Wow, what's up your ass? Piss off.

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Iv9X4bgg-IU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>

No badge/title displays on kills in that video.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3jXv1rqlDVE&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Or that one.

And I can guarantee you nobody in combat sits with their back to a wall, waiting for someone to walk in front of them. Military TEAMS move as an organized unit, with a purpose.

I don't give two shits about campers - they don't bother me, and are easy to kill. And who's policing anyone? Play however you want - I don't care. Doesn't change the fact that camping is not a "strategy".


The problem is people DO try to police it. I can't even count how many times I've been in one of my "spots" and have six kills in a row and one of my teammates shoots me in the back because they're mad that I'm not running around. Running around is not fun to me.

BigChiefFan 11-11-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 6253301)
Just a wild guess, but it might just be traffic on their servers - which I expected, but was pleasantly surprised I didn't have any issues yesterday.

I had zero issues yesterday. I haven't been able to long on to their server in an hour and a half today. :cuss::cuss:


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