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DaneMcCloud 09-27-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116390)
Not saying he is Roaf but isn't that what the Saints thought of Willie? :shrug:

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116257)
Last year everyone raved about Albert...now everyone says he is sucking...

Everyone griped that we needed to cut Macintosh, we did...and now people are griping...


Some of you should offer to give Haley and Pioli some of your expertise on picking players...or lend them your crystal ball, either one.

Albert's poor play is still a result of new technique and the weight loss, IMO. I'm not throwing him under the bus, nor are most of the knowledgeable posters.

As far as DMac is concerned, no one was advocating replacing his ass with Chris Terry or Kyle Turley. We wanted an upgrade, not a swinging dick for the case of a swinging dick.

milkman 09-27-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6116271)
There are some tangential connections in this post.

Think of all the posters on this site whom you consider knowledgeable about football: are these people bitching about Albert?

Yes, we needed to cut Sackintosh...AND replace him with someone better, not worse.

And, based on what we've seen thus far, Pioli could profit from a little advice....

Albert is struggling in trying to learn technique, and he has no supporter as high on him as me.

But he does need to be sat down in this period of struggle while he is working on technique, cause he is playing as badly as is being stated.

Playing him right now could ruin his confidence.

But the fact that we we don't have anyone to play in his place and he and the Chiefs are ****ed.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-27-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6116291)
I know you haven't. I have 168 employees that work for me and some of them regardless of the direction you give them make the dumbest mistakes you ever saw.

This is the NFL, not a ****ing sheltered workshop.

DeezNutz 09-27-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6116454)
Playing him right now could ruin his confidence.

It might.

But if it does, he was never the player we thought or hoped he was.

milkman 09-27-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6116321)
Goff played really well last year. You think that may have been what they valuated him on?

No, Goff was clearly in decline last year, and Charger fans were calling for anyone to replace him.

petegz28 09-27-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6116447)
Albert's poor play is still a result of new technique and the weight loss, IMO. I'm not throwing him under the bus, nor are most of the knowledgeable posters.

As far as DMac is concerned, no one was advocating replacing his ass with Chris Terry or Kyle Turley. We wanted an upgrade, not a swinging dick for the case of a swinging dick.

I guess the coaches didn't want to upgrade as bad as the fans?

petegz28 09-27-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6116458)
It might.

But if it does, he was never the player we thought or hoped he was.

Right now Albert was hardly worth trading Allen.

Marcellus 09-27-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6116455)
This is the NFL, not a ****ing sheltered workshop.

Nice try smart ass.

I work at a place that has one of the highest avg paying salaries in the area. I guarantee its better than KC's average in the NFL.

problem is whether it's the NFL or ****ing MCDonald's there is a comparison between the expected performance of your employee base and the actual performance and what you can do about it.

Laugh if you want but anybody who hires or manages people will tell you the same thing.

What you want and what you have is not easily corrected in either environment and sometimes people just plain let you down.

Chieficus 09-27-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6116291)
Building a football team and building a company with a bunch of employees isn't that much different. You can't turn either around in a short period of time.

Good point. I think that's the bigger picture here. A lot of people are whining about the o-line and what shoulda/coulda happened. Well, the o-line is just a small fraction.

What this team needed was a near-complete overhaul: We needed to replace 1 if not both safeties, with the switch to a 3-4: 3 LBs, 3 DLs, then also: C, G, T, WR, QB, KR/PR, and while it was lower priority maybe even HB. That's at minimum 1/2 a team's worth of starters and doesn't even begin to address depth at those positions. Not to mention the complete dearth of leadership that was on the team.

I'd like to see the GM that can come to a laughing stock of a team and even begin to fix every phase of that in one offseason.

They had to prioritize, and with the draft, they decided to set their aim on the DL and QB (with the trade); then maybe see what they could happen to fill with the later picks.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116308)
Uh dude, signing and trading for upwards of 10 players during preseason is panic.

I think it only qualifies as panic when you think you're a player or two away and find out you're not at the last moment, so you start reaching at straws to make yourself better than you are. I don't think our owner, GM, or coach ever had that illusion.

When you have a seriously talentless team you pick a place and start working. That's what they did. The rest of it is trying to find the right sized finger to plug the hole in your dam until you can get the proper fix...

milkman 09-27-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 6116386)
Why is that assumed to be true? Before Pioli was hired, be it here or in Cleveland, all anyone talked about was how he was going to hire Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz. There's no guarantees with such things.

You're right.

I am just speculating, but the fact is, most new GMs go with someone they have, or have had a working relationship with.

For DeCosta that is a shorter list than Pioli's, who's been in the league for much longer.

Smed1065 09-27-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6115533)
It is amusing.

Said the wait person. Now just pile......

3 weeks in and U know better? LOL

U right, it is amazing U R still posting!

milkman 09-27-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6116458)
It might.

But if it does, he was never the player we thought or hoped he was.

I think every player who goes through a learning period and struggles loses their confidence.

Some don't overcome it.

Some do.

I think Albert is one that would, but I think also that it does slow the process, which is my primary concern with Albert right now.

Smed1065 09-27-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6116484)
You're right.

I am just speculating, but the fact is, most new GMs go with someone they have, or have had a working relationship with.

For DeCosta that is a shorter list than Pioli's, who's been in the league for much longer.

Guess your jerk IM, did not work out? Idiot!!!

ROFL

milkman 09-27-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 6116491)
Said the wait person. Now just pile......

3 weeks in and U know better? LOL

U right, it is amazing U R still posting!

I always enjoy these pearls of wisdom.

Now if only I knew what any of them mean.


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