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chiefzilla1501 11-01-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7136814)
This is just so much warmed over horseshit that I don't know where to start.

Since when did Moss not care about winning or football? Moss has always been a guy that loves winning and loves playing ball. He doesn't always practice well but he's hardly a cancer as his teammates generally speak very positively of him.

And he's a guy that simply doesn't care about the bullshit anymore. Childress is an awful coach that runs an awful organization - Moss said it. The Raiders were an awful organization with no leadership anywhere - Moss said it.

Run a good organization with leaders in place and Moss will play hard for you.

Moss's contributions on the field would go much deeper than just "another receiver". Moss is a force multiplier. Like an A-10 or an Abrams, Moss makes everything you put on the field more effective if only by his mere presence. He'd be a guy that changes the character of the entire Chiefs offense and open up avenues that this team simply doesn't have right now.

Will it guarantee a championship - well of course not. But in a league where parity rules the day, it could absolutely mean a win in the first round. And hell, if it means a win in the first round...what stops it from meaning a win in the 2nd round?

It's a funny league and Moss makes us much more dangerous. If this team can carry a guy that literally sucker-punched his quarterback as a starting D-lineman, why the hell can't it carry Randy Moss?

New England Patriots. Bill Bellichick. Tom Brady. Let's not pretend that he's some kind of a victim to a losing franchise. There's one common denominator in all this: Randy Moss.

Will it guarantee a championship? Even with Randy Moss, it's a longshot. We had one douche bag who undermined our head coach in front of our team. He was cut the week later. And good riddance. We seriously want to deal with this same LJ type headache again? A guy who's going to complain the day after a win about not getting his? A guy who will sell out his coach to the national media? A guy who is going to get into a fight with Tom Brady?

This isn't warm bullshit. I've been huge on the bandwagon of building a culture for winning and I would still argue to this day that it is a HUGE reason why this team has started to turnaround. I didn't want TO. I don't want Randy Moss. I don't mind going off course slightly for character issues, but this is a whole different extreme.

The Bad Guy 11-01-2010 07:13 PM

Childress released a statement that he's getting cut tomorrow. Waivers process Wednesday at 4.

Sure-Oz 11-01-2010 07:14 PM

Yeah I saw that, we'd be 28th in line?

boogblaster 11-01-2010 07:16 PM

he'd be a upgrade over Chambers ....

The Bad Guy 11-01-2010 07:17 PM

Comparing Larry Johnson to Randy Moss?

That's ****ing comedy gold. Where has Moss undermined his coach ever?

The guy is a competitor that vented he was frustrated with his role. Big ****ing deal.

Again, some of you act like this is going to sink our ship. We are playing with house money. Getting a shot at Moss is like pulling a flush on the flop.

tk13 11-01-2010 07:19 PM

I said it in the other thread. I think he does bring some good to the table, but he absolutely has a history of taking plays off. I don't think that's even debatable.

Sure-Oz 11-01-2010 07:19 PM

LJ was a cancer that never cared about anything but himself....Moss loves to win

dirk digler 11-01-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7136814)
This is just so much warmed over horseshit that I don't know where to start.

Since when did Moss not care about winning or football? Moss has always been a guy that loves winning and loves playing ball. He doesn't always practice well but he's hardly a cancer as his teammates generally speak very positively of him.

And he's a guy that simply doesn't care about the bullshit anymore. Childress is an awful coach that runs an awful organization - Moss said it. The Raiders were an awful organization with no leadership anywhere - Moss said it.

Run a good organization with leaders in place and Moss will play hard for you.

Moss's contributions on the field would go much deeper than just "another receiver". Moss is a force multiplier. Like an A-10 or an Abrams, Moss makes everything you put on the field more effective if only by his mere presence. He'd be a guy that changes the character of the entire Chiefs offense and open up avenues that this team simply doesn't have right now.

Will it guarantee a championship - well of course not. But in a league where parity rules the day, it could absolutely mean a win in the first round. And hell, if it means a win in the first round...what stops it from meaning a win in the 2nd round?

It's a funny league and Moss makes us much more dangerous. If this team can carry a guy that literally sucker-punched his quarterback as a starting D-lineman, why the hell can't it carry Randy Moss?

The Pats run a first rate organization and he caused problems including fights with coaches and possibly Tom Brady. Add to that he half assed it alot this season and he was let go.

Marcellus 11-01-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7137376)
LJ was a cancer that never cared about anything but himself....Moss loves to win

That doesn't make sense considering his getting himself traded out of NE. Where would you rather be right now if you were a receiver that wanted to win?

tk13 11-01-2010 07:27 PM

Yeah, I don't know what he's done to be considered a winner. I definitely put him a level above Larry Johnson though.

For me it doesn't come down to Pioli at all, it's all about Haley. If he truly thinks he can handle him, we should go for it. It's definitely a win now move. He has the talent to do wonders for this passing offense. But Haley better be able to handle him. We are one of the the few teams, if not the only team, at the top of the league that has gone through this season without much drama.

Mecca 11-01-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7137385)
That doesn't make sense considering his getting himself traded out of NE. Where would you rather be right now if you were a receiver that wanted to win?

I don't really think he got himself traded out of NE other than asking for a contract that they wouldn't pay. That trade was about getting something for a player they weren't going to keep because of money.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7137368)
Comparing Larry Johnson to Randy Moss?

That's ****ing comedy gold. Where has Moss undermined his coach ever?

The guy is a competitor that vented he was frustrated with his role. Big ****ing deal.

Again, some of you act like this is going to sink our ship. We are playing with house money. Getting a shot at Moss is like pulling a flush on the flop.


Selling out his teammates, basically telling him he would rather be with a different team:
“I don’t know how many more times I’m going to be up here in New England, but I’m going to leave the New England Patriots, Coach Belichick, man, with a salute, man. I love you guys, I miss you, I’m out.”


Pro football talk quote about his decision to leave the PATRIOTS:
"As one source explained it, Moss was behaving at times like the Moss of old, but he was smarter about when and where he would act up, in order to avoid creating tangible, public proof of an attitude that laid the foundation for the team's decision to move on, at a time when Moss made it clear that he wanted to move out."


Throwing Childress under the bus:
"I wish we could have had that three at the end of the half," Moss said. "Maybe could have been different, maybe not. ..."


Complaint after a big opening day win in Cincy:
"I don't really want to say here in the organization,” Moss said, “but I think around here in the New England area a lot of people don't want to see me do good and the reason why I don't know, really don't care.”

Mecca 11-01-2010 07:50 PM

Brad Childress is a horrid coach, he keeps throwing players under the bus to save his own ass, you really think any of those players have any respect for him?

CaliforniaChief 11-01-2010 07:52 PM

I agree with those who say we probably couldn't have him if we wanted him. It's possible that half of the NFL will put in a claim on him.

First of all, Brad Childress is an idiot. Nobody there respects him. He sold his soul and all he got in return was a $20 million hospice-eligible QB who texts pictures of his package to women. There's no rhyme or reason to what they're doing because they're in full panic mode. Heck, if he was being honest, I'd bet you $$$$ that Jared Allen regrets being there instead of here now. Everyone in the league knows what a joke Childress is, which in a strange way, satisfactorily explains Moss' rebellion.

Second, in a year where teams are struggling to sell seats, a struggling team like Dallas, the Raiders, the Chargers, the Jaguars, etc...could sell some seats with Moss in their uniform.

Finally, he's still better than almost any WR in the league. I'd LOVE him in Kansas City.

The Bad Guy 11-01-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7137470)
Selling out his teammates, basically telling him he would rather be with a different team:
“I don’t know how many more times I’m going to be up here in New England, but I’m going to leave the New England Patriots, Coach Belichick, man, with a salute, man. I love you guys, I miss you, I’m out.”


Pro football talk quote about his decision to leave the PATRIOTS:
"As one source explained it, Moss was behaving at times like the Moss of old, but he was smarter about when and where he would act up, in order to avoid creating tangible, public proof of an attitude that laid the foundation for the team's decision to move on, at a time when Moss made it clear that he wanted to move out."


Throwing Childress under the bus:
"I wish we could have had that three at the end of the half," Moss said. "Maybe could have been different, maybe not. ..."


Complaint after a big opening day win in Cincy:
"I don't really want to say here in the organization,” Moss said, “but I think around here in the New England area a lot of people don't want to see me do good and the reason why I don't know, really don't care.”

The nerve of him saying they should have taken the points. Childress is a ****ing moron.

Your quotes proved absolutely nothing.


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