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Cassel's BEST game as a Chief and Haley was Mr. Classy today!
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I don't even see what the big deal is...
So what if he "pussies up" in the face of pressure... Every single year the Colts suit up they are one Manning injury away from being a bottom dweller... The whole offense is a timing offense...based off of timing routes and precision...they aren't built for a Roethlisberger type improv offense...Manning doesn't do crazy Eli shit in the pocket...he expects his receivers to be in certain spots based off of certain calls and he delivers it to a certain spot on every pass... He doesn't take hits because he calls the plays as he sees them...and if executed correctly he's right 90% of the time...which is just insane. Even against San Diego he was making throws not many QBs could make... There is no player in the NFL that is more responsible for the success of his team (good or bad) than Peyton Manning...that entire team (even the defense) feeds off of Peyton Manning... He runs the team...he has, without a doubt, more power than Jim Caldwell. He IS the Colts. Without him they aren't even a 3 win team. Shit, they may not even be able to win a game. |
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What if Manning were injured? What if Manning were in New England? I would argue that if Manning had a stronger coach over the years, a coach that contolled the gaem rather than giving up than control to Manning, that the Colts would have more than one SB win. But that's nothing more than speculation and conjecture. I would also argue that warner has already proven that he was every bit as important to the Cards as you speculate that Manning is to the Colts. I would also speculate that Manning is as important to his team as you do, but until he's hurt and missed a few games, then my argument to that effect is as much speculation as is yours. |
And the reason the fact that he pussies up in the face of pressure is important is because it has cost his teams wins against teams in the playoffs over the years when he has been faced with consistent pressure.
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Meh.
Well I could argue that Tom Brady hasn't won shit since Spygate... a scandal so ridiculous Goodell had to destroy the evidence. |
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Coaching clearly makes a difference. |
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I know his season isn't really indicative of his stat line...I was cursing him like everyone else for the first quarter of the season. but the dude is showing potential...and he's doing it the right way...he's not having Derek Anderson meltdowns...he's putting in the work, he's trying to improve, he's clearly the leader of the offense... He's not a world beater yet, he may never be... but I will say this...and this is a pipe dream...but no one thought New England had a chance in the world in 2001...they were kind of the joke of the playoffs...and they should have lost right away to Oakland... but after that...it just...happened...the Pats beat the Steelers and then Bledsoe played a great game to get them to the Super Bowl... and then they upset the Rams and Tom Terrific was born... if the Chiefs were to miraculously repeat this history...I guarantee Matt Cassel would develop into a franchise QB right before our eyes...it would be deja vu... That 2001 Super Bowl did more for Tom Brady's development than any coaching could ever do...it gave him a swagger that he's had ever since. |
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It's why I think a better coach than Tony Dungy who took control of that team away from Manning woulf have helped that team win more than one SB. Without Manning, Tongy Dungy is Herman ****ing Edwards before Herman ****ing Edwards. |
This thread was really getting good until Hootie came in and threw up Manning jizz all over the place and everyone left.
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This thread was also about Haley's Class that not many are talking about.
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and we saw what brady did with weapons...50 passing tds
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