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whoman69 12-07-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8177546)
As a general rule, I agree with this line of thinking, but there are some RBs that I think are an exception.

Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Marshall Faulk come to mind.

Trent Richardson brings Earl Campell to mind when I watch him play, and if we are drafting at 14 or 15, if he's there, highly improbable, I'd be hard pressed to pass on him in the draft.

Clearly QB is the priority for this team, and for any team that doesn't have one.

But if there isn't a first round QB on the board, Trent Richardson should be a very strong consideration.



The argument isn't that we shouldn't make protection a priority.

It is that QB is THE priority.

There's no question we have work to do on the O-Line, but you should never make fixing the O-Line a bigger priority than finding a QB.

Good points. So many teams though with a young QB do not put a team around them, especially on the line. Rookies are going to hold onto the ball too long. This team cannot go RT in the first round and leave us with the same old crap at QB. We have the talent to go around a young QB but we do need to fix the void at RT.

Nightfyre 12-07-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8177643)
Good points. So many teams though with a young QB do not put a team around them, especially on the line. Rookies are going to hold onto the ball too long. This team cannot go RT in the first round and leave us with the same old crap at QB. We have the talent to go around a young QB but we do need to fix the void at RT.

In this particular draft, I suspect that RT can be addressed as late as the third and fourth rounds.

Omaha 12-07-2011 11:23 AM

I just saw this. Hope it's not a repost:


http://boltbeat.com/2011/12/06/thank...jared-gaither/

WhiteWhale 12-07-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8177643)
Good points. So many teams though with a young QB do not put a team around them, especially on the line. Rookies are going to hold onto the ball too long. This team cannot go RT in the first round and leave us with the same old crap at QB. We have the talent to go around a young QB but we do need to fix the void at RT.

Exactly.

QB is the priority, but protecting that investment should also be a priority. Barry Richardson is, in no way, a passable NFL tackle.

We don't need to draft a guy in the 2nd. I'm not an NFL scout. I don't get paid to scour film for 8+ hours a day to recognize talented NFL players. I'm sure, somehow, we can acquire someone adequate... even if it's a temporary stop gap... through one of the many avenues of player acquisition available to us. I think our OL is solid outside of that one spot.

Seriously there will probably be at least 40 guys available in the draft or FA next year who would be an upgrade over Richardson. He's just awful.

Tribal Warfare 12-09-2011 05:36 AM

Another way of looking at this is that David Mims has grown into the position and will replace Richardson as the starting RT in the near future.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-12-2011 06:10 PM

42 minutes ago - by Dan McLellan - Gaither received game ball
LT Jared Gaither, who was claimed off the waiver wire two weeks ago, received a game ball for his performance against the Bills. “I did it more for what we have done offensively,” coach Norv Turner said. “Then, when you watch the tape, he was deserving of the game ball. I don’t know where we would be if we didn’t get Gaither.”

whoman69 12-12-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8183257)
Another way of looking at this is that David Mims has grown into the position and will replace Richardson as the starting RT in the near future.

He's going to join Stanzi and Powe on the all-Pine team. Mims wasn't active last week.

BoneKrusher 12-12-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8197108)
. “I did it more for what we have done offensively,” coach Norv Turner said. “Then, when you watch the tape, he was deserving of the game ball. I don’t know where we would be if we didn’t get Gaither.”

Todd Haley says no problem Norv, i like to help out rivals within the division.

aturnis 12-12-2011 06:45 PM

From ProFootballTalk.com

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Ravens OT Gaither a no-show on Saturday

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 8, 2010, 11:04 AM EST
Ravens offensive tackle Jared Gaither was not on the field as the team began practicing Saturday morning.

Gaither’s absence is notable because he’s been the subject of swirling trade rumors, with the Bills most apparently in pursuit. Gaither did practice on Friday, and was not reported to be injured on the field. During the initial workout, Gaither was moved from left tackle to right tackle. 2009 first-round pick Michael Oher took over on quarterback Joe Flacco’s blind side. Saturday, Oniel Cousins replaced Gaither with the first team.
It’s possible that Gaither and his agent are unhappy about the position change. Left tackles generally make more money than right tackles, and Gaither is in a contract year.

It’s also possible that the Ravens are in the process of finalizing a trade.

Stay tuned.
He wasn't traded...

htismaqe 12-12-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8197108)
42 minutes ago - by Dan McLellan - Gaither received game ball
LT Jared Gaither, who was claimed off the waiver wire two weeks ago, received a game ball for his performance against the Bills. “I did it more for what we have done offensively,” coach Norv Turner said. “Then, when you watch the tape, he was deserving of the game ball. I don’t know where we would be if we didn’t get Gaither.”

Left tackle? Right tackle? Oh who cares, they're both the same, right?

whoman69 12-12-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197359)
Left tackle? Right tackle? Oh who cares, they're both the same, right?

Tom-ay-to Tom-ah-to

ChiefsCountry 12-12-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8197359)
Left tackle? Right tackle? Oh who cares, they're both the same, right?

We need to move Albert/ dumbass Chiefs fans

Tribal Warfare 12-12-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8197996)
We need to move Albert/ dumbass Chiefs fans

to a point there is validity to moving him, I'm rooting for the kid but he's just an adequate OT but an all-world OG . Just sayin

aturnis 12-12-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8198006)
to a point there is validity to moving him, I'm rooting for the kid but he's just an adequate OT but an all-world OG . Just sayin

This.

He's given up 26 sacks in less than 4 yrs. That's with Thigpen rolling out to the right to "hide" Alberts flaws in his rookie year. He's given up over 20 sacks in less than 3 yrs. when you take away his protected rookie year. He still has time to give up more this year.

Quesadilla Joe 12-14-2011 02:12 PM

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Gaither has started two games since being dumped by the Chiefs, and has yet to allow a pressure of any kind. Rivers suddenly looks better..
https://twitter.com/#!/ProFootbalFoc...44978483400704

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Norv Turner on Jared Gaither: "I don't know where we'd be without him. I don't think we would've won these last 2 games." #Ravens #Chargers
https://twitter.com/#!/DanKolko/stat...44769212792833


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