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NJChiefsFan 09-03-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8875508)
This is where you come to an impass. You want to keep building the roster by not giving up picks, but without the right QB, what exactly are you building for.

There is no question giving up picks will probably hurt short term but I think odds are, nearly guaranteed if you hit on the qb, you will be better quicker. I would take an average team with a very good qb over a very good roster with an average qb. I would take it without blinking.

O.city 09-03-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8875529)
There is no question giving up picks will probably hurt short term but I think odds are, nearly guaranteed if you hit on the qb, you will be better quicker. I would take an average team with a very good gm over a very good roster with an average qb. I would take it without blinking.

I assume you meant average team with good QB?

NJChiefsFan 09-03-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8875536)
I assume you meant average team with good QB?

Yeah.

New World Order 09-03-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8875529)
There is no question giving up picks will probably hurt short term but I think odds are, nearly guaranteed if you hit on the qb, you will be better quicker. I would take an average team with a very good gm over a very good roster with an average qb. I would take it without blinking.


Most of the teams in the NFL that are successful have drafted qb's either in the first or second round.

O.city 09-03-2012 09:15 PM

Yeah, I would too.



But I'd really like to have a great team with a great QB.


I'm not as down on Pioli as some but I'm also not as high on him as some. He's done a pretty solid job building the roster, but without the QB it might prove to be an exercise in futility.

NJChiefsFan 09-03-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8875562)
Yeah, I would too.



But I'd really like to have a great team with a great QB.


I'm not as down on Pioli as some but I'm also not as high on him as some. He's done a pretty solid job building the roster, but without the QB it might prove to be an exercise in futility.

His mistakes, or perhaps his non-hits if you will, have been magnified by not having a qb.

O.city 09-03-2012 09:18 PM

He has had some mistakes, but like Boss pointed out, he's actually done a great job drafting guys.

He just hasn't gotten the bus driver yet.

Chiefshrink 09-03-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8870647)
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

You know, BlackBob, as a therapist I expose denial everyday and for a moment here as I initially read your post I thought to myself, "BlackBob is not in denial he raises legit points UNTIL I was reminded who our QB is with Lewis and Hali out with Flowers and Toribio very gimpy and questionable.

Good try though man!!! For a moment there I was positive and that moment was a brief sigh of relief but then reality hit:doh!: But sincerely I thank you for that brief moment of fresh air:D

BossChief 09-03-2012 09:27 PM

Its not just drafting guys, either.

He has done a good job getting us talent via free agency, too.

Hillis
Boss
Winston
Routt
Lilja (as a stop gap)
Weigmann (stop gap)
Breaston
Elam
Draughn
maneri
Pitoitua
Smith

I know Im missing somebody, but thats not a bad list of free agent talent he has signed.

O.city 09-03-2012 09:29 PM

As a Chiefs fan, we all better pray to you can add



Cassel (stop gap) to the list.



I can't for the life of me believe that Pioli, a guy who has a pretty good eye for talent, think Matt Cassel is a legit leader.

BossChief 09-03-2012 09:34 PM

Cassel is a good leader, he just isnt a good quarterback at this level.

NJChiefsFan 09-03-2012 09:37 PM

It's true he hasn't really passed over a ton of replacements, although there have been some. This yr won't be different if we get a low 20 s high teens pick. At some point he is going to have to force the issue

Hammock Parties 09-03-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8874898)
arguably 3 more that could be considered starters in DMC, Arenas and Moeaki)

This is why people make fun of you for being a homer and a blowjob artist for Scott Pioli.

DMC is a #4 WR.

Arenas is a NCB who played 382 snaps last year.

Those guys don't play a starter's role, nor do they even have the talent to start. At any position.

TEX 09-03-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8875574)
He has had some mistakes, but like Boss pointed out, he's actually done a great job drafting guys.

He just hasn't gotten the bus driver yet.

Tha G.M. just can't swing and miss on a QB and HC. IMO, he's done it twice with the HC.

New World Order 09-03-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8875620)
Its not just drafting guys, either.

He has done a good job getting us talent via free agency, too.

Hillis
Boss
Winston
Routt
Lilja (as a stop gap)
Weigmann (stop gap)
Breaston
Elam
Draughn
maneri
Pitoitua
Smith

I know Im missing somebody, but thats not a bad list of free agent talent he has signed.


Some of these guys have not even played for us yet. What about depth? We are still struggling with depth despite what we went through last year. For having 4 offseasons that is nothing to brag about.

Routt? Really? You forgot to list Matt Cassel


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