Star has the capability and upside of ngata if he developed right

Devito -starter pay
Poe - high pick
Jackson - re-signed for starter pay
Bailey - should be good fit in 1 gap
Powe - should be better in 1 gap

That's a good rotation...can't see them drafting Star, but I could be wrong.

Star would kick Tysons ass.

I agree that Star doesn't offer a lot of pass rush ability, but his ceiling is far greater than Jacksons.

No your right.

I could see wanting someone like Dion Jordan, but I just don't get the fascination with star or joeckel/fisher. Really limited return for your investment, particularly with Star. I want somebody who can change games with this pick.

Exactly.

I mean, isn't the sole purpose of that high of a pick to choose the guy that can impact wins and losses the most?

Pass rusher or quarterback.

Can't we at least entertain the thought that John Dorsey and Andy Reid are being genuine with their interest in Geno?

Or are we sold that they brought the guy to KC for a 2 day visit as a smokescreen?

I think star can but it would be an investment more than immediate. But like I said before that seems to be the 2013 draft early.


Richardson wouldn't be a bad pick either IMO.

I think they were or are somewhat interested but the acquisition of Alex smith changes things.


We need more pass rush from the dl. I think powe has ability and I think Poe will be a monster in there. But Richardson would make sense. Richardson Poe devito powe would rotate well

But would you feel comfortable drafting a rotational player with the first pick?

It's different. Because some of us are saying he's worth 1.1, your assuming he must be worth 1.? + top picks in this and/or next years draft. One pick, vs multiple high value picks.

RGIII brought a haul last year, does that mean every player ever to go 1.1 should? No. Don't be silly.

Nice.

I think it's the opposite. I think the initial decision on Alex Smith was made not only before we'd done due diligence on Geno Smith, but before we even had a GM. I think that's 100% Reid's hire and I think we were set down that path starting on day 1, during meetings between Clark and Andy. I think as they've gone through the evaluation process as a staff, I think the interest in Geno, which I think is genuine, has grown. I don't think Andy Reid, as an individual, could have had any idea about Geno when the Alex decision was made, because literally all of his time leading up to that point would have been absorbed with the day-to-day running of the Eagles. He'd probably seen him play, and I'm sure he knew who he was at the time, but I doubt seriously that he'd spent much time studying any player for the 2013 draft at that point. That's the whole point of all this evaluation they do in February and March, after all...

Now what they specifically think of him, in conjunction with the 1:1, I have no earthly idea. I'm not saying he's the pick when I say they have genuine interest. The genuine interest part was in reference to their interest at the Combine and his pro day, and the private workout last week.

No he doesn't.

Seriously.

The absolute upside to Starlite is Vince Wilfork. And that's being very generous.

The guy is a very good player, but he's not a penetrating type of guy. He's a two gap nose in either a 34 or 43. He's not a five tech and he's not a 1 gap upfield tackle.

He's a more polished, more experienced, better coached version of what we drafted last year in Dontari Poe.

But it would be absolutely redundant to think about picking him when we just took Poe with the #11 pick last year.

This is right on.

I think in a stronger LT class Joeckel is a mid-2nd round pick. He doesn't look good. If you're talking Fisher, you have a better argument, but Jokester is not even close to obvious #1.