Too bad they weren't playing for a championship instead...

I don't think either one is a bust. I think BOTH players were obviously guys that needed time coming out. I don't know if Fish is ready or not but I'd like him to compete for the position and prove it first...

I'll give him his fair time, as any player in this class deserves, but I never liked him. Even as a prospect before the draft.

I'm not going to rely on anything. I'm going to call it like I see it and need evidence to trust what is being done is the right thing.

Example: If they pay Alex Smith based on the playoff game and not the whole body of work, I will not believe he can bring that level of play week in, week out (and therefore be worth that salary) until I see it actually happen.

Some teams deserve hope and faith because they have an established history of being savvy and effective. The New England Patriots. The Indy Colts. The 49ers. The Tampa Rays. The Boston Red Sox. The St. Louis Cardinals. The Texas Rangers.

Some don't. The Chiefs fall in this category. Maybe Dorsey can get them into the previous category, but it's going to take time.

Until then...Show me.

Well, I think we generally all agree that we have a top notch coaching staff minus our DC perhaps.

We have all seen Dontari Poe be an absolute nobody as a rookie to blowing up in his second year. We're putting trust in the coaching staff that Fisher will have the same progress.

Just because Fisher was overmatched as a rookie does not mean that's his ceiling and the player he will be this season or for the rest of his career.

That's up to the NFL...

Of course not.

Then again, it's also possible that he's WORSE at LT than he was a RT.

Acknowledging reality isn't a bad thing and doesn't make one a pessimist.

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree.

All I'm saying is, there ain't shit we can do about it. I would root for a better franchise if I had it in me, but I don't. I'm a Chiefs fan until I die, unfortunately. So I'll just keep hoping like the sucker I am.

If the Chiefs continue to sleep through the rest of FA then they will get a 3rd + a few more mid round picks.

They haven't signed shit, yet, that would even come close to making up for the loss of Albert.

Of course not. I'm open minded about this move. Fisher is going to sink or swim this year. We drafted him to play left tackle, so right or wrong that's where he's going to play. If he sucks at left tackle then I don't think it means he should have stayed at right tackle. In that case he probably just sucks either way and was a complete bust.

We're in the same boat.

The only difference is perspective.

There's a history and a somewhat understood formula for us to judge this on. It's not like the NFL can just decide on a whim. Based on the history of compensatory picks and a limited understanding of them, we are pretty likely to get a 3rd for him. We got a 3rd for Brandon Carr, I'm pretty sure we'll get a 3rd for Albert.

Smith being in the prime of his career gives this team a chance to take advantage of what our core players have left and gives the team a min. 3-4 year window to find our QBOTF.

I totally agree with the bold. The problem is the NFL doesn't release all the criteria for getting comp picks. Some, yes. We all know it's partly the value of players lost compared to value of players gained.

There's also other criteria (record? closeness to cap? playoff teams?) they use and have admitted to using that they haven't released and we don't know about...

This is definitely a possibility. The best thing we can do at this point, is to find out as soon as we can what Fisher will be, and the only way to find that out, is by playing him.
He could be horrible for all we know, and should know by mid-season.
No sense in wasting more time.