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ThaVirus 06-05-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672912)
Lmao. I hope you're not serious. They didnt have to score a singke point on offense and they woulda won that game.


.. And yet he helped his offense score 27 points without his defense, special teams, Denver's center, or Marshawn really.

ThaVirus 06-05-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672935)
Yes by points. Your defense fell apart after that fun little stretch of back up qbs, and cincy plays the browns steelers and ravens twice a year. The best defenses in the league were sea car sf no and arizona. Kap made it through a gauntlet last season.


By this same logic, everyone in your division got to play themselves (hardly offensive juggernauts) as well as the shit that we call the AFC South.

ViperVisor 06-05-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672935)
Yes by points. Your defense fell apart after that fun little stretch of back up qbs, and cincy plays the browns steelers and ravens twice a year. The best defenses in the league were sea car sf no and arizona. Kap made it through a gauntlet last season.

Also on the schedule...

Green Bay
Indianapolis
Houston
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Washington
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
Green Bay

6 games vs bottom 10 defenses

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10672940)
John V you sure throwing out a lot of ifs.. but guess what. None of that shit happened.


Btw Kap sucks, and so does Smith. Just throwin that out there.

Well if you're going to act like Wilson is so great i'm going to give you perspective. Its pretty obvious if the rb yds were reversed that games not even close. I know it didnt happen, but it gives you perspective.

Saying "wilson will beat Kap every time" is dumb when Wilson barely has anything to do with it. Its that defense and lynch that beats the 9ers. And they still haven't won in sf since 2008.

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 10672950)
Also on the schedule...

Green Bay
Indianapolis
Houston
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Washington
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
Green Bay

6 games vs bottom 10 defenses

And most of those were played with 2 targets. Theres obviously going to be games against easier teams. Doesnt take away from the fact Kap faced every team in the nfc west twice or had to play the saints with only 2 targets and panthers with one(vd was out). Also played seattle with 2 targets in week 2. Vd was out for the colts game too. One very slow target to throw to.

Just Passin' By 06-05-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672953)
Well if you're going to act like Wilson is so great i'm going to give you perspective. Its pretty obvious if the rb yds were reversed that games not even close. I know it didnt happen, but it gives you perspective.

Saying "wilson will beat Kap every time" is dumb when Wilson barely has anything to do with it. Its that defense and lynch that beats the 9ers. And they still haven't won in sf since 2008.

You're not giving perspective. You're making a claim you can't back up. There's a difference.

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10672945)
By this same logic, everyone in your division got to play themselves (hardly offensive juggernauts) as well as the shit that we call the AFC South.

And we dominated. I think the nfc showed their brand in the SB. The afc is sad when it comes to defense.

hometeam 06-05-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672953)
Well if you're going to act like Wilson is so great i'm going to give you perspective. Its pretty obvious if the rb yds were reversed that games not even close. I know it didnt happen, but it gives you perspective.

Saying "wilson will beat Kap every time" is dumb when Wilson barely has anything to do with it. Its that defense and lynch that beats the 9ers. And they still haven't won in sf since 2008.

I didn't say that.

I just said your argument is stupid, and has no merit or basis in reality. You can if, and, and but, all day, but the truth of the matter is, that shit didn't ****in happen. SO what the **** is your point?

If KC won every game last year we would have went 19-0. If my dad was Bill Gates I would be rich as snot. But guess what. That shit didn't happen.

Get it?

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10672967)
You're not giving perspective. You're making a claim you can't back up. There's a difference.

So you're saying if lynch got 14 yds and gore got 100+ seattle woulda won?

I know there's no way to prove it, but if you know anything about football it's pretty safe to assume the 9ers win that game game if the hawks driving force gets less than 20 yds.

hometeam 06-05-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672978)
So you're saying if lynch got 14 yds and gore got 100+ seattle woulda won?

I know there's no way to prove it, but if you know anything about football it's pretty safe to assume the 9ers win that game game if the hawks driving force gets less than 20 yds.

Blackbob?

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10672975)
I didn't say that.

I just said your argument is stupid, and has no merit or basis in reality. You can if, and, and but, all day, but the truth of the matter is, that shit didn't ****in happen. SO what the **** is your point?

If KC won every game last year we would have went 19-0. If my dad was Bill Gates I would be rich as snot. But guess what. That shit didn't happen.

Get it?

Yes i do.

And if Lynch gets 14 yds the 9ers win that game.

Get it?

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672982)
Yes i do.

And if Lynch gets 14 yds the 9ers win that game.

Get it?

What im trying to get at is that Wilson beats Kap is a dumb statement. And praising wilson because he gets to sit on his ass and watch kap try to make plays against one of the best secondaries ever is even more dumb. He has plenty of help and lynch owns us. Without Lynch they're nothing against us.

Just Passin' By 06-05-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672978)
So you're saying if lynch got 14 yds and gore got 100+ seattle woulda won?

I know there's no way to prove it, but if you know anything about football it's pretty safe to assume the 9ers win that game game if the hawks driving force gets less than 20 yds.

Again, you're just tossing out an unverifiable claim. Lynch has never been held to under 20 yards in a game with Wilson at QB, so you don't even have a direct comparison. However, including the playoffs (and assuming I didn't miss a game when looking), the Seahawks are 2-0 in games where Lynch ran for less than 40 yards, and 7-2 in games where Lynch ran for less than 60 yards, over the past two seasons.

hometeam 06-05-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 10672982)
Yes i do.

And if Lynch gets 14 yds the 9ers win that game.

Get it?

Except that shit didn't happen. LMAO

JohnV 06-05-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10673003)
Again, you're just tossing out an unverifiable claim. Lynch has never been held to under 20 yards in a game with Wilson at QB, so you don't even have a direct comparison. However, including the playoffs (and assuming I didn't miss a game when looking), the Seahawks are 2-0 in games where Lynch ran for less than 40 yards, and 7-2 in games where Lynch ran for less than 60 yards, over the past two seasons.

Im talking about sf vs sea. Youre giving me examples against different teams. How about i give examples of the teams we're actually talking about.

3 out of the last 4 times the 9ers and seahawks have played gore has had less than 30 yds. 3 out of those 4 games lynch had more than 100 yds.

The one game that lynch had less than 100, and gore had more than 100 the 9ers won.


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