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pugsnotdrugs19 03-14-2017 06:40 PM

I'm not sure I understand the huge uproar. I get it, it's a steep price for the one year.

But in the end, it changes really nothing with the 2018 cap and past that. Even if you are sitting there worried about the cap rollover, we are still just a few moves away from having ample cap space next offseason. There are several players that the Chiefs will be able to move on from next spring if they deem it necessary and they will be in fine shape with the cap.

From everything I've read, we might have signed one of the best interior run defenders in the whole league for this year. He'll have his chance to earn a bigger contract. Who's to say this isn't just the guy we need right now? Poe sure wasn't cutting it last year.

Anyone who knows football knows that you have to 'stop the run to have some fun'. Everyone on this board knows that this team's success against great teams will be highly dependent on its pass rush, and it didn't get near enough opportunities to get after QBs last year because of its poor run defense. Specifically against Pittsburgh.

Chief Roundup 03-14-2017 07:08 PM

Hmm thought we were done in FA market. $8M seems a steep price for a team that has no real cap space.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2017 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12783344)
From everything I've read, we might have signed one of the best interior run defenders in the whole league for this year.

LMAO

Dude was the lynchpin on the 32nd run defense in 2015. At nose tackle. In the 3-4.

If we're lucky he'll be a solid rotational player behind Howard.

tmax63 03-14-2017 07:22 PM

I work with a very knowledgeable Donkey fan, 1 of about 3 I've found out here in CO. in 20 years. He was disappointed because he was really wanted this guy to fix Denver's run defense. I really don't care about the money because Poe wants 10+ mil a year and isn't as good a run stuffer as this guy.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12783431)
LMAO

Dude was the lynchpin on the 32nd run defense in 2015. At nose tackle. In the 3-4.

If we're lucky he'll be a solid rotational player behind Howard.

90 YPG with
144 without

Yeah, no impact at all.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12783438)
90 YPG with
144 without

Yeah, no impact at all.

Those are numbers in the 4-3. They have no bearing.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12783412)
Hmm thought we were done in FA market. $8M seems a steep price for a team that has no real cap space.

We have more than what is reported.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12783439)
Those are numbers in the 4-3. They have no bearing.

he was about the only one of their players who fit the scheme dude. ROFL

Hammock Parties 03-14-2017 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12783443)
he was about the only one of their players who fit the scheme dude. ROFL

He fits the 3-4, that is why he's here.

Wish people would stop citing 4-3 "accomplishments," especially when he played about 14 snaps of run defense a game last year.

What's interesting is their run defense was the worst in the league with him at NT, then they switched to the 4-3, played him a lot less snaps, and they improved to league average.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12783448)
He fits the 3-4, that is why he's here.

Wish people would stop citing 4-3 "accomplishments," especially when he played about 14 snaps of run defense a game last year.

What's interesting is their run defense was the worst in the league with him at NT, then they switched to the 4-3, played him a lot less snaps, and they improved to league average.

Duh. No one else fit the 34 hence the ranking. How were his individual ranks in the 34...specifically run stop rate ROFL

Hammock Parties 03-14-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12783453)
Duh. No one else fit the 34 hence the ranking. How were his individual ranks in the 34...specifically run stop rate ROFL

If his run stop rate was that great, why was he the key cog in the worst run defense in football?

And why did they improve, demonstrably, with him playing LESS?

It doesn't add up.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:33 PM

His first two years at nose, they gave up 3.75YPC. That third year was the outlier and he was STILL 2nd in the league in run stop percentage...Checkmate.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12783461)
His first two years at nose, they gave up 3.75YPC. That third year was the outlier...

This is the first argument I've seen for him that makes sense.

Hopefully he can get back to the form he showed in 2014.

staylor26 03-14-2017 07:35 PM

Of course the Eagles defense was terrible statically in the Chip Kelly era. That has nothing to do with the fact that Logan was the second best run stuffer that year according to PFF (Clay's bible). He won't acknowledge that though, because he's a ****ing troll.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12783468)
Of course the Eagles defense was terrible statically in the Chip Kelly era. That has nothing to do with the fact that Logan was the second best run stuffer that year according to PFF (Clay's bible). He won't acknowledge that though, because he's a ****ing troll.

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