Nothing more needs to be said. I’m “sucking my own cock” about calling Baker’s personality an issue that would arise the second there were unmet expectations. That’s exactly what’s happening.

None of what you've said explains how Baker being a douche affects their ability to win games.

He was a douche in college and became the #1 overall pick. He was a douche in his rookie season in which he set the rookie NFL TD record.. What's changed?

Hunt is going make Baker Mayfield look good

Chubb is the better back.

Keep up. The White Claw crowd has already flaked to Natty Seltzer.

Hunt is not that great of a back. If you take out the first 4-6 games of his rookie season he is very average.

Oh ok


Hunt led the NFL in rushing as a rookie with 1,327 yards ...


But based on his first 4-6 games he is just average. That's pretty funny LMAO

Punditry is beginning to change their tune after this episode. It appears that the glaze is coming off the donut ... or the icing is sliding off the cake ... or the raisins are popping off the loaf ... or whatever the terminology is.

The point is that, suddenly, what Baker is baking isn't all that appetizing. I'm fully expecting the other Browns players to start making anonymous statements that aren't particularly favorable. After all, a 1:2 TD to INT ratio is league worst.

When the schtick stops schticking, it can fall apart quickly. And if the Chute Pickles lose to the donks this weekend (which can certainly happen), it's going to get real bad in Cleveland.

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So you don’t think it’s an issue? You don’t think it affects him at all that he can’t block out the noise? Why was his personality considered a possible red flag to begin with?

And I don’t give two ****s about what he did in college. That’s irrelevant.

I also don’t give a **** about his rookie season. He beat up on shit teams and looked like this years version against the good ones.

His personality is an awful fit for the position he plays and it obviously affects him. He’s more worried about what’s being said about him than anything else. He has little man syndrome and it’s clear as day that is affects him.

not sure how one can have that 1:2 ratio with those receivers and not get benched.

It’s not an ideal trait for your star QB to have, but that’s not the argument.

I haven’t seen any legitimate correlation (or causation) between him being a douche and his team not being able to win games. They’re losing because he’s playing like shit, he’s getting harassed in the pocket because his GM prioritized WR and pass rusher over OL, and their head coach is a ****ing buffoon.. his douchiness shining is a symptom of all that, not the disease.

To me Cobb is a great runner and ok receiver for a back.

Hunt is a above average runner and great receiver for a back.

Hunt ran great routes. You could line him out wide or in the slot and it would be total mismatch if they tried covering him with a LB or even most safeties.

I suppose it's because he was their "Big Pick" and you can't admit failure ... or something of that nature.

Nick Wright had his graphics department make a slate that compared Baker's stats with Andy Dalton. Big surprise ... Dalton has been playing better (statistically). And Dalton just got his ass seriously benched.

I just think it's difficult for teams to admit a mistake. Especially one as major as this one. And, of course, you have to consider the alternative ... who is their backup QB? I don't even know.

Of course, Baker may turn it around. Their remaining schedule is phenomenally easy. They play a bunch of replacement QBs and some horrific defenses that their run game should dominate.

The Chute Pickles' season may hinge on the donk game. We'll see ...

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I don't know ...

Perhaps there's a part of his brain that says "I'm THE GREATEST COMPETITOR IN THE WORRRRLLLLD!!!" right before he slings a duck behind and over-the-head of his receiver.

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I just don’t see how you can say it doesn’t affect him when so much of the game is mental for a QB.

Hence why Leaf was brought up at the start of this by Hamas.