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Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=327000)

ToxSocks

10-20-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15260747)

He missed alot of pretty routine throws.

You'll have to show me because that's not how I remember it at all.

He had two glaring misses: The first down pass to his RB and the overthrow on the post in the end zone.

O.city

10-20-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15260761)

You'll have to show me because that's not how I remember it at all.

He had two glaring misses: The first down pass to his RB and the overthrow on the post in the end zone.

There was an easy third down throw over the middle to Beasley he missed that would have kept a drive alive. Another one to Diggs that was way off.

I'll go back and watch later.

BigCatDaddy

10-20-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15260761)

You'll have to show me because that's not how I remember it at all.

He had two glaring misses: The first down pass to his RB and the overthrow on the post in the end zone.

They highlighted all of them during the half time show. It was the focal point of their discussion.

DRM08

10-20-2020 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HayWire (Post 15260427)

I agree with that. The one thing I think they do get right is weighting yardage different. Gaining 5 on 3 and 5 should be more important than gaining 5 on 3 and 10. I guess it's better to stick with the eye test and take the experts numbers with a grain of salt.

ESPN QBR usually matches pretty good with the eye test. This time they messed it up. I think the grade for Mahomes is very fair. He was pretty good but not perfect. The Allen grade is about 20-30 points higher than it should be. He was a contributing factor in their loss and he admitted this in the press conference.

htismaqe

10-20-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15260761)

You'll have to show me because that's not how I remember it at all.

He had two glaring misses: The first down pass to his RB and the overthrow on the post in the end zone.

He had 3 or 4 more passes that were a good 2 feet too high. He had a half dozen truly errant throws.

htismaqe

10-20-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15260851)

Yep.

KChiefs1

10-20-2020 03:40 PM

I was chatting with a friend & it dawned on both of us that the AFC is taking over for future QB's in the NFL.

Mahomes
Watson
Allen
Jackson
Burrow
Herbert
Tua

The Jets will probably end up with the 1st pick which they will use to get Trevor Lawrence.

swifty32661

10-20-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15261504)

He had 3 or 4 more passes that were a good 2 feet too high. He had a half dozen truly errant throws.

You don't feel the bad weather conditions had anything to do with it?

htismaqe

10-20-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by swifty32661 (Post 15261689)

You don't feel the bad weather conditions had anything to do with it?

Of course it did. But to say he only had 2 bad throws isn't accurate.

Megatron96

10-20-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15261690)

Of course it did. But to say he only had 2 bad throws isn't accurate.

True. Allen threw several passes that were just puzzling. Not just the accuracy, but the trajectories and velocities were often . . . not receiver-friendly. He seems to have a hard time with touch. A lot of his passes are missiles that just make catching it a lot harder. Then add in the inaccuracy issues, bad timing or whatever . . .

KChiefs1

10-20-2020 03:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Allen having a better QBR than Patrick Mahomes last night is not a great evening for QBR (which I generally like)</p>— Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1318594955233943555?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe

10-20-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15261703)

Yeah, he's got a cannon but he's like a fastball pitcher, he doesn't have a great change-up.

htismaqe

10-20-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15261714)

I agree.

In general, I find ESPN QBR to be about the best rating system out there for QB's. Last night wasn't a great one though.

redfan

10-20-2020 04:51 PM