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Wilson8 03-31-2022 09:50 PM

I am sure it has gone down some. I guess Brett Veach would be happy with that.

Each position shows the players that are no longer on roster with their age included.

Wait and see what free agents we might sign. (Melvin Ingram)

If we go only with the draft to fill our needs, age for sure will drop.

oldman 03-31-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16225465)
The bolded is the best part. It's like the Chiefs pulled the 'ol switcheroo on them, made them spend a ton of money on a threat that no longer exists...meanwhile the Chiefs get to retool while remaining competitive if not dominant because of our QB and coach...this shit gets sweeter by the minute the more I think about it.

Yes, we'll miss Tyreek, but the Chiefs are not just gonna throw in the towel because he's gone. They will use this opportunity to stay a step ahead in the division, as much as they can anyway. It's a risk, sure, but I think ultimately this was the right thing to do for all involved.

When the idea 1st came up about trading Hill in a poll, I was a firm Hell No. But the more I think about what Veach got and the cash tied up by our rivals to stop our 2019-2021 offense, the more I like it. When they zig, we zag. Maybe we won't run Wasp anymore, but I haven't seen a lot of 65 TPT for awhile, either.

BlackOp 04-01-2022 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16226972)
When the idea 1st came up about trading Hill in a poll, I was a firm Hell No. But the more I think about what Veach got and the cash tied up by our rivals to stop our 2019-2021 offense, the more I like it. When they zig, we zag. Maybe we won't run Wasp anymore, but I haven't seen a lot of 65 TPT for awhile, either.

I would like to see the Chiefs sign Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, Jarvis Landry and Sammy Watkins for this season...then spend all their draft capital on defense.

How's that for "outside the box" thinking...

They could alternate them every other week....depending on how old they are feeling. The "All Glue Factory" team....

Kidding of course....kind of.

Watkins played for $5 million last year.....he's worth that for 10 games and knows the offense.

rabblerouser 04-12-2022 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16218025)
Dude, you don't even understand how Frank Clark's contract works with the numbers you've been spouting which is miraculous as much as it's been discussed here. Don't pretend like you have any clue how this roster is built or what constraints we would otherwise face. It's embarrassing to watch people put arguments in front of you that you just ignore because somehow you can find math (with numbers that aren't even right) where we keep Tyreek Hill for this season.

And oh, this season is all that matters according to you.

I wasn't making it up when I said that -King- may be the all-around worst poster on CP.

His "hot takes" lay there like "hot carls."

Everyone knows how much I love Tyreek - he's buddies with my friend Josh and we are both early March Pisces, and Twisted Chief will recall how much I stood by Tyreek in early 2019 - "Him and Mahomes will be our Montana and Rice"...

but the reality is, he wanted that BIG big contract, and we simply could not afford to match what the Jets and the Dolphins were going to pay.

The Raiders ****ed us with that Adams contract, but Veach got a decent return for him, plus we get his contract off this year's books. He's going to have brokedick noodle armed Tua throwing him the ball, so he will be back within 3 years, we'll probably give them a 4th back for him.

And the offense will be more consistent, more well-rounded, and less reliant on the home-run ball.

Veach knew what he was doing.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-12-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16227073)
Watkins played for $5 million last year.....he's worth that for 10 games and knows the offense.

All jokes aside, if you can get Watkins to take $2.5 million with another $2.5 million in incentives, I'd do it.

oldman 04-12-2022 01:05 PM

That was for $5M guaranteed. Nobody is beating down his door to sign him, so I'd rather wait until after the draft to what our needs will be. Frankly, 49 targets and only 27 receptions for 394 yards and 1 TD, doesn't scream we need him back.

-King- 04-12-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16242917)
I wasn't making it up when I said that -King- may be the all-around worst poster on CP.

His "hot takes" lay there like "hot carls."

Everyone knows how much I love Tyreek - he's buddies with my friend Josh and we are both early March Pisces, and Twisted Chief will recall how much I stood by Tyreek in early 2019 - "Him and Mahomes will be our Montana and Rice"...

but the reality is, he wanted that BIG big contract, and we simply could not afford to match what the Jets and the Dolphins were going to pay.

The Raiders ****ed us with that Adams contract, but Veach got a decent return for him, plus we get his contract off this year's books. He's going to have brokedick noodle armed Tua throwing him the ball, so he will be back within 3 years, we'll probably give them a 4th back for him.

And the offense will be more consistent, more well-rounded, and less reliant on the home-run ball.

Veach knew what he was doing.

What was everybody thinking we'd sign Tyreek for? Because obviously the $23 mil he's actually getting would have crippled our salary cap. So what numbers did you have him pegged at that wouldnt have killed the cap?

The Franchise 04-12-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16243071)
What was everybody thinking we'd sign Tyreek for? Because obviously the $23 mil he's actually getting would have crippled our salary cap. So what numbers did you have him pegged at that wouldnt have killed the cap?

I don't know how many times this has to be highlighted as wrong.....but Hill is not getting $23 million dollars per year. I don't care how you average it out to make that happen. He has a cap hit this year of $6 million and then it's $31M, $25M, and $28M.

-King- 04-12-2022 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16243094)
I don't know how many times this has to be highlighted as wrong.....but Hill is not getting $23 million dollars per year. I don't care how you average it out to make that happen. He has a cap hit this year of $6 million and then it's $31M, $25M, and $28M.

And the chiefs can structure that money any way they want. So I don't know why you keep acting like listing out the hits individually changes the total amount he's due. So yeah since we don't know exactly how they would structure it, it's easier to just do the average.

Chris Meck 04-12-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16243147)
And the chiefs can structure that money any way they want. So I don't know why you keep acting like listing out the hits individually changes the total amount he's due. So yeah since we don't know exactly how they would structure it, it's easier to just do the average.

Why are you still talking?

TEX 04-12-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16242917)
I wasn't making it up when I said that -King- may be the all-around worst poster on CP.

His "hot takes" lay there like "hot carls."

Everyone knows how much I love Tyreek - he's buddies with my friend Josh and we are both early March Pisces, and Twisted Chief will recall how much I stood by Tyreek in early 2019 - "Him and Mahomes will be our Montana and Rice"...

but the reality is, he wanted that BIG big contract, and we simply could not afford to match what the Jets and the Dolphins were going to pay.

The Raiders ****ed us with that Adams contract, but Veach got a decent return for him, plus we get his contract off this year's books. He's going to have brokedick noodle armed Tua throwing him the ball, so he will be back within 3 years, we'll probably give them a 4th back for him.

And the offense will be more consistent, more well-rounded, and less reliant on the home-run ball.

Veach knew what he was doing.

I'd have kept Hill. He is special. He'll be fine in Miami. He can turn a noodle arm Tua throw into 6 in split seconds. We signed JuJu. It would have been great to see he and Hill together. Combine that with Reid committing to run the ball more effectively, and the offense would have been much more consistent than last season. Hill is a huge loss. Lots of pressure to hit on the draft. I'm not going to get over losing Hill easily. I championed hard for him back in 2019 right with you. In fact Twisted lost a bet with me and left the board for about 5 months because of that. (Even though I said emotions were high and he didn't have to leave, but he did anyway). We'll just have to see what becomes of it. Still in disbelief...

-King- 04-12-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16243278)
Why are you still talking?

Someone responded to me so I replied back. Kinda how convos go.

Do you disagree with my post? What number did you have Tyreek coming in at when you were interested in keeping him? Cause 23 per year is clearly too much (let's ignore when you were down to pay him 30 regardless of cap consequences for now.)

rabblerouser 04-12-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16243304)
I'd have kept Hill. He is special. He'll be fine in Miami. He can turn a noodle arm Tua throw into 6 in split seconds. We signed JuJu. It would have been great to see he and Hill together. Combine that with Reid committing to run the ball more effectively, and the offense would have been much more consistent than last season. Hill is a huge loss. Lots of pressure to hit on the draft. I'm not going to get over losing Hill easily. I championed hard for him back in 2019 right with you. In fact Twisted lost a bet with me and left the board for about 5 months because of that. (Even though I said emotions were high and he didn't have to leave, but he did anyway). We'll just have to see what becomes of it. Still in disbelief...

I'm with you.

But when the draft picks are weighed against what he would've commanded in salary Cao space 🤔 I'm saying, damned if you do, damned if you don't....

I love Tyreek. He'll be a Chief again.

rabblerouser 04-12-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16243493)
Someone responded to me so I replied back. Kinda how convos go.

Do you disagree with my post? What number did you have Tyreek coming in at when you were interested in keeping him? Cause 23 per year is clearly too much (let's ignore when you were down to pay him 30 regardless of cap consequences for now.)

SHUT.
THE.
****.
UP.

-King- 04-12-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16243572)
SHUT.
THE.
****.
UP.

What was your number for Tyreek?


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