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jettio 02-13-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807052)
Sanders fumble was a catch. By rule turning up field is a football move. So much for the refs being in KC's pocket.

It was really close.

I think I would not want that to be a catch and TD if it happened exactly like that in the endzone.

It was clear control with two feet on ground for stationary player.

He started to turn and jump as a football move but it was not a long time with control.

Seemed like Chiefs bench did not hold any grudge about the reversal.

The funny thing about the Eagles fans complaining about the Devonta Smith and Dallas Goedert catch reviews, seems like both players got the team in hurry up snap the ball before review mode. If the receiver signals replay prevention hurry up, fans of the team really should not whine about a review.

BigRedChief 02-13-2023 12:09 PM

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Seems like a clear pass interference penalty to me. Any Time. Any game. That’s a penalty.

jd1020 02-13-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16807290)
He started to turn and jump as a football move but it was not a long time with control.

If you are going by the rule in the book, how much time the receiver controls the ball does not matter if he 1) controls the ball, 2) is in bounds with 2 feet, and 3) makes a football move (turning up field).

Sanders caught the ball, there is no question about that. The only question is who the **** interprets the rule and the refs on the field ruled fumble and the refs reviewing the play said incomplete pass.

comochiefsfan 02-13-2023 12:14 PM

Losers cry about refs.

Easiest excuse in the books for subpar play. Lame.

jettio 02-13-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16807302)
If you are going by the rule in the book, how much time the receiver controls the ball does not matter if he 1) controls the ball, 2) is in bounds with 2 feet, and 3) makes a football move (turning up field).

Sanders caught the ball, there is no question about that. The only question is who the **** interprets the rule and the refs on the field ruled fumble and the refs reviewing the play said incomplete pass.

Mike Pereira said there was a time element. I have not read the rule, but seems like that is how the retired refs talk about it.

Gary Cooper 02-13-2023 12:33 PM

The Chiefs had a defensive TD taken away in this game. The Eagles kicked a FG on that drive.

Against the Bengals, the Chiefs had an offensive TD taken away because of penalty. They kicked a FG instead. They also had an INT taken away because of a penalty; the Bengals scored a TD on that drive.

These critics are overlooking all important calls that went against the Chiefs.

ChiTown 02-13-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16807377)
The Chiefs had a defensive TD taken away in this game. The Eagles kicked a FG on that drive.

Against the Bengals, the Chiefs had an offensive TD taken away because of penalty. They kicked a FG instead. They also had an INT taken away because of a penalty; the Bengals scored a TD on that drive.

These critics are overlooking all important calls that went against the Chiefs.

Umm, there are rules, Sir! Only the losing teams get to complain about the Refs and bad calls...

notorious 02-13-2023 12:57 PM

Whoa, listening to Eagles radio 99% of fans along with the commentators are blaming the call.

Those poor loser assholes.

ChiTown 02-13-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16807454)
Whoa, listening to Eagles radio 99% of fans along with the commentators are blaming the call.

Those poor loser assholes.

So, I'm assuming their vaunted D surrendering scores on every 2nd half possession was a distant 2nd place reason as to why they lost that game?
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Calcountry 02-13-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 16804758)
Of course they're upset about the call. They'll bitch about it for years. Like we haven't forgotten the call that took away our 2 pt conversion vs the Steelers.

Raiders fans out here still remember the tuck rule

Iczer 02-13-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16807321)
Mike Pereira said there was a time element. I have not read the rule, but seems like that is how the retired refs talk about it.

Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/

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A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:

a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and

b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and

c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call hence the OR before that part of the rule.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

Calcountry 02-13-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16807454)
Whoa, listening to Eagles radio 99% of fans along with the commentators are blaming the call.

Those poor loser assholes.

L. O. S. E. R. S. LOSERS!

notorious 02-13-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16807482)
So, I'm assuming their vaunted D surrendering scores on every 2nd half possession was a distant 2nd place reason as to why they lost that game?
https://media1.giphy.com/media/PjaQr...giphy.gif&ct=g

Every other word was bleeped, I just heard "penalty" and "don't call it in that situation" between all the belligerent drunken swearing.

Calcountry 02-13-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)
Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

Turning up the field is a football move that was a catch and a fumble clearest day. They had it right on the field and then they waited for Mike Ferreira to muddy the waters for the people to overturn it.

SupDock 02-13-2023 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16807523)
Mike Pereira doesn't even know the rule yet he's there as the expert.

The actual NFL rule states NOTHING about a time element. He's making shit up.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...eting-a-catch/



So lets see here.

A. Had control with both hands.
B. Both feet were in bounds.
C. He turned up field, which is according to the rule book common to the game.

The part about maintaining control long enough has nothing to do with the way Pereira mentioned it to be interpreted in this call.

They might want to add maybe count to two Mississippi after the catch so we can make really sure they caught it for realz.

To be totally fair, Kelce had a very similar incompletion last year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This pass was ruled incomplete, not a fumble, after Travis Kelce got three feet down and made a football move before losing the ball. <a href="https://t.co/UrkVNnuIcH">pic.twitter.com/UrkVNnuIcH</a></p>&mdash; Ben Brown �� (@BenBrownPL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBrownPL/status/1467679299360673797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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