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BWillie 11-22-2024 07:01 PM

India doesn't really move the needle but better than doing nothing. Are we unloading Garcia?

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-22-2024 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17819021)
India doesn't really move the needle but better than doing nothing. Are we unloading Garcia?

Why? Garcia can play all 4 infield positions, and play them well. He's 24 years old and cheap. While he didn't hit well this season, he hit well enough in his first full season at the ML level the year before and he has produced in the minors. He's a perfect super utility guy with positive WAR, steals a shit ton of bases, and plays superb infield defense anywhere you need him. Those are the type of guys you don't simply unload because he's not throwing around gaudy numbers at the age of 24. He is extremely valuable to this team... even moreso as a utility player than as a starting Thirdbaseman.

duncan_idaho 11-22-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17819021)
India doesn't really move the needle but better than doing nothing. Are we unloading Garcia?


He’s a career .354 OBP guy who can play 2B and has been a little above average offensive player his whole career.

He’s not a star, but a .350 OBP guy in front of the Royals 2-3-4 is going to help a lot.

Fansy the Famous Bard 11-22-2024 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17819065)
He’s a career .354 OBP guy who can play 2B and has been a little above average offensive player his whole career.

He’s not a star, but a .350 OBP guy in front of the Royals 2-3-4 is going to help a lot.

Do you actually see India even playing Second base for KC? I don't. He the starter at third from day 1, imo. He had almost 1200 innings at 3B in the minors, with less than 100 innings at 2B. I'm not sure the deets on why exactly he never played an inning there for Cincy, but it's obvious he can. Massey showed a lot of promise for KC this year at 2B.

We've now got a good amount of youth/talent on the infield. And you've got another in Nick Loftin who gives you your 2nd utility guy extending into the OF as well (bye adam frazier).

duncan_idaho 11-22-2024 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17819082)
Do you actually see India even playing Second base for KC? I don't. He the starter at third from day 1, imo. He had almost 1200 innings at 3B in the minors, with less than 100 innings at 2B. I'm not sure the deets on why exactly he never played an inning there for Cincy, but it's obvious he can. Massey showed a lot of promise for KC this year at 2B.

We've now got a good amount of youth/talent on the infield. And you've got another in Nick Loftin who gives you your 2nd utility guy extending into the OF as well (bye adam frazier).


He could play either. Or some of both.

Primary 3B who slides to 2B when you sit Massey or he DHs is fine.

The big thing is the fit as a guy who gets on base.

Mecca 11-22-2024 08:14 PM

Damn they moved Singer...kinda surprised.

lewdog 11-22-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17819127)
Damn they moved Singer...kinda surprised.

I wish Brady well but I was kinda tired of watching him try to figure it out.

ChiefsCountry 11-22-2024 08:43 PM

It's funny seeing old boomer women get mad on Facebook about the trade saying the Royals trade all their good players lol

TomBarndtsTwin 11-22-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17819021)
India doesn't really move the needle but better than doing nothing. Are we unloading Garcia?

Garcia becomes the likely utility infielder. Can play 2B, SS and 3B and can provide some offense with the bat in a utility role. He’ll likely get some starts at 3B again when India is at 2B.

louie aguiar 11-22-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17819057)
Why? Garcia can play all 4 infield positions, and play them well. He's 24 years old and cheap. While he didn't hit well this season, he hit well enough in his first full season at the ML level the year before and he has produced in the minors. He's a perfect super utility guy with positive WAR, steals a shit ton of bases, and plays superb infield defense anywhere you need him. Those are the type of guys you don't simply unload because he's not throwing around gaudy numbers at the age of 24. He is extremely valuable to this team... even moreso as a utility player than as a starting Thirdbaseman.

I like Garcia but he may be worth more to other teams than us since his best position is shortstop and we have that position filled.

tk13 11-22-2024 10:52 PM

It is tough to give up on homegrown guys but it's a good move. We just sat there and complained about our offense for the entire last month of the season.

It's definitely a different era of Royals baseball. The only players with more walks than India last season were Judge, Soto, Schwarber and Ohtani. That's it. And now we get to put him in front of Witt and Vinnie instead of trying to make guys like Garcia and Adam Frazier work. The only catch is he's not the base stealer or defender someone like Garcia is, but he takes a ton of walks and he is top 10 in HBP every single year. He just gets on base.

ChiefsCountry 11-22-2024 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17819315)
It is tough to give up on homegrown guys but it's a good move. We just sat there and complained about our offense for the entire last month of the season.

It's definitely a different era of Royals baseball. The only players with more walks than India last season were Judge, Soto, Schwarber and Ohtani. That's it. And now we get to put him in front of Witt and Vinnie instead of trying to make guys like Garcia and Adam Frazier work. The only catch is he's not the base stealer or defender someone like Garcia is, but he takes a ton of walks and he is top 10 in HBP every single year. He just gets on base.

It will turn those Bobby doubles into steaks

Hoover 11-23-2024 12:00 AM

I love India for the Royals. Frankly roll players like him are exactly what you need.

BWillie 11-23-2024 01:09 AM

Kris Boobitch to the rotation then?

Ocotillo 11-23-2024 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17819383)
Kris Boobitch to the rotation then?

For what it's worth, Roster Resource projects Alec Marsh and Kyle Wright as the Royals' fourth and fifth starters, while Bubic is projected to be the eighth-inning setup man to Lucas Erceg.

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-res...-charts/royals


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