Did anyone else notice a large, ominous building during the previews of this season's shows?

I saw it last night, but it looked like what a lot of people had speculated in this thread.

Lori is only Lady Macbeth if that analogy is used in the broadest possible sense of "Woman telling her husband to do something". Which would make every wife Lady Macbeth.

She's not manipulating Rick for her own purposes. Shane is a danger to Rick. We've known that since the first season when Shane got Rick in his sights and appeared to think about it. Lori bringing this to Rick's attention isn't manipulation, it's altering him to the reality that there's a possibly-unstable guy in their group who has reasons to want him out of the picture.

It's Lady Macbeth in the sense that she's pushing the right buttons to get him to do something. It was a masterful bit of Socratic questioning that she used to get him to the realization that Shane presents a danger. I'd argue that Lady Macbeth isn't necessarily looking out for herself alone. She's looking out for their family and them as a couple. She wants them to ascend and gain power. She wants her husband to be king. Yes, she's barred by her gender from the "golden round," but she's not as interested in having that for herself as in having it for her husband. But you can certainly read her as much more demonic and evil than that.

I'm guessing you see a deviousness, for lack of a better word, to Lori that I don't, because talking about how she's "manipulating" Rick or "pushing his buttons" kind of attaches that sense to it. And in that way I'd see where the Lady Macbeth comparision comes from.

But I don't think there's anything questionable behind what Lori's doing. To say she's manipulating Rick would be like saying that maybe nothing needs to be done about Shane, but Lori wants it done, so that's the direction she's pushing Rick in. But regardless of Lori's opinion, it's been clear that something will have to be done about Shane. So I see it as more a case of helping Rick realize the truth than of Lori pushing his buttons.

I wouldn't say that I see Lori as devious or with any ulterior motives beyond her own family's survival and taking care of business. I agree that her intentions are good. She's still pushing his buttons, though. She's using the powers that she has to achieve the ends she seeks. Rick is also reluctant (and has always been.. he's too full of "the milk of human kindness") to step up and do the ruthless, preemptive thing. She's pushing him to do it.

I see what you're saying as far as Lori not being the "evil" or "devious" character that is usually associated with Lady Macbeth, and I agree. I do, however, think she's pushing Rick into territory in which he's not entirely comfortable. She sees things he doesn't, and she's going to push him to do what she, physically, can't.

I thought Rick was turning the corner into a stone cold killer, then he goes and saves a 'kid'.



I disappoint.

Dont really get Shanes motivation anymore. Why doesnt he just run off with super hot Andrea? She digs him, has had sex with him, probably wants more, and they are both on the same wavelength. Yet he still wants to be with Lori??

Yeah, I don't get why he's like, "I should have ran off with you." There's a car right there. What's changed?

Because just maybe, just maybe he's been in lust/love whatever you wanna call it with Lori for far longer then RIck just being shot. He was close to it. I dont know about you all, but i've known people who really really fall for a person and its a bitch for them to let go.

Anyways, We can all say we would do this n that, but until something like that happens, no one knows what they would really do. People who you think are badasses would completely freeze up and vice versa.

Well... Lori's pregnant, and Shane honestly thinks the baby is his. Even if he's a psycho, he does seem to be a "take care of what's mine" sort of guy.

I thought he had the conversation with the blond after he found out Lori was pregnant, but I probably have the timeline mixed up.

If I remember correctly, he had the conversation about running off prior to them finding the farm. It was before Carl got shot, they explored that church in the town where they heard the bells ringing.

Lori found out about her pregnancy once they got on the farm, because she sent Glen to get the tests. Though... maybe she told Shane about it prior to getting confirmation with the tests, because she was pretty sure she was pregnant prior to actually taking the test.

Nope, your timeline is correct. Just finished watching the first half of the second season with the wife.

I was not as enthusiastic about this episode as the rest of you seemed to be. Something seemed off to me about the whole hour, but I'm not sure what exactly it was.

The little battle in the town seemed anti-climactic.

The blonde is getting pretty hot and skinny.

Shane just just hook up with her and ignore the gross brunette.

Am I the only one that doesn't find Andrea even remotely attractive?

No. She's a bit manish for me.

I thought it was a great episode.

Would people like it if the group split up and the story followed each of them separately?

As long as people are being eaten, I don't give a shit. They need to move their asses off that damn farm next week, though.

Nope. She's a really good actor, but I don't really find her attractive either. Not necessarily ugly, but just very plain-Jane.

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I don't know, I thought the one guy that got shot and was getting his face eaten off while screaming was pretty intense and then the kid that put a spike through his leg, that whole situation had a lot of tension as well.

Yeah, I thought they handled that well. At first I thought they were gong to give him a mercy killing, then I thought "Holy crap, they're really going to amputate", then back to mercy killing, then back to amputation, then to "holy crap, they're going to leave him for the zombies, like his cheekless buddy", and finally "holy crap, that must have hurt."

And am I the only one that wants to see Carl grow up into a cold, ruthless, zombie-killing machine?

Probably not going to happen. His dads a puss and his mom is always coddling him.

Do they find "the prison" next week?

That doesnt matter in the context of the show. They have already established Shane likes her, and in this world, his options are fairly limited. Why keep pursuring Lori? Its just dumb unneccessary melodrama.

Because he loves Lori and thinks the baby is his? Because at 1 time, Lori probably did love him. Face it, Lori wants Rick to clean up HER mistakes.

I'd hit it. She's nothing special though. Pretty good body on her.

Don't know.

Looked like it, from the previews of Rick baiting the walker through the fence with his blood.

Laurie Holden is one frigging good looking woman! I don’t see how you guys are seeing this differently. “She’s nothing special”. “Plain Jane”. I don’t get it. Oh man I could give her a good reason to be wearing those goggles……

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Oh…..and there were some similar comments much earlier about Sarah Wayne Callies. I don’t get that either. This is a hot lady here. (I do think she looked better in Prison Break – stupid stupid show – as a redhead and with a little more meat on her bones)

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Its the new Ginger Mary-ann, Veronica or betty argument

Oh no, Laurie Holden is hot, I just meant she's nothing special in the world of entertainment when compared to a lot of other actresses.

yeah but some in here think they ain't very purty!

Mary Ann.....yummy!

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it's called Chiefsplanet Syndrome. Everyone here has a 12" d!ck and bangs supermodels on a regular basis.

...while sitting in our mansions in the Caymans.


FTR, both of the ladies from the show are hot. Super hot.

ahh.....I see now.
at first I was like...
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I don't like blondes. Given all else is equal, I will always go for the dark hair.

Yeah they are both hot.. I think people are forgetting this is not like most shows,so they do not doll them up.. There is no reason for them to be hot.. Kind of like most of the wives on here do not look hot most of the time..

Yuck. Not even remotely good-looking. Especially not in the second picture. Blondes hot though.

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Lauren Cohen as Maggie. She's hot!

Oh my,

Speak for yourself, bucko. My women wake up looking like super models.

Doesn't look like it from what my DVR is saying it is about for Sunday.

So you sleep with dolls?

So Rick and Shane are gonna finally duke it out in the next episode, bout damn time!

I don't know who to put my money on though. Both seem equally matched, this'll go quite a few rounds.

YUCK!? Not even remotely!? another LOL moment for me. Dude...that is just so messed up....I gotta throw down a big WHATEVA! I won't go quite as far as saying you're full of shit....but I can see it from here!
(second pic isn't so great I reckon)

Dude, I would not the whole thing either. She looks like a lemur.

I also wouldn't the whole thing.



But I would the naughty bits. :drool:

you sonofabitch! you ruined it for me!

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Edit - changed my mind. I'd hit 'em both.

I concur with the HELL NO on Lori. I would however buy her a cheeseburger.

OK OK....I gotta let it go. I understand dudes have differing opinions of what's hot. (I like a little more meat on the bones myself...but I still think she's hot) It's shocking to me to see such strong opinions like "hell no" and "not even remotely hot". cause let me tell you....if I'm single, I'm in a bar, it's closing time and lemur girl wants to take me home....I'm all about it. (I honestly would not have thought there would be ONE CP dude that would say no...guess I was wrong)
dude she weighs so little you could totally hold her up by one ankle....oh the possibilities!

If I was holed up on a farm in a zombie apocalypse, I would consider myself lucky if these women were there. However I find it hard to believe the black guy isn't all over Laurie Holden's character. In fact, that character is kind of pointless. It's like they just needed a token black character. I like him though.

I'm pretty sure I'd **** every chick on this show except for the lesbian looking lady who lost her daughter.

But anyways, this show has gotten GOOD! I'm glad I fought through the mostly boring season 1 because WOW, this show has evolved into something great.

yeah he doesn't have much to say does he? remember....he had what looked to be a possible life threatening injury to his arm....that cut was HUGE and SICK....and 10 minutes later with a little gauze wrapped around it....he's GREAT! (man I really thought he was gonna get zombie infected from that cut)

Seriously? Under these exact circumstances, what wouldn't you be all about. Thats the equivalent of saying if I was alone on a deserted island with just her and I...

Of course probably every dude on this site would be all about it. I call that situational standards. Meaning your normal standards of attraction are raised or lowered by your situation. At 2am, drunk, ready to get giggity, and she is the scrapage that hasn't been taken home, yeah, sure, you're right, let's do this. But then at a Victoria Secrets lingerie show, I doubt you would even notice if she was choking to death while sitting right next to you.

Oh yeah that's right. Forgot about that.

On a side note, do you think Daryl's brother will show up alive at some point? Didn't they find that he cut his hand off to escape the rooftop? I remember Daryl's hallucination with his brother, but is that supposed to indicate that he's dead?

oh I'd notice! and I'd know why she was choking.... :D

Also,


Does anyone think they'll ever end up meeting up with the black guy and his boy again?

I've wondered about him. that dude isn't exactly a nobody in the movie/TV world. I say no way the dream means he's dead. he'll probably show up at some point. maybe as a zombie?

do the zombies get any kind of intelligence in the comic? he'd be a good one to show up as a smart-ish zombie.

I'd be really shocked if Merle didn't show up again, and not as a zombie. And no, I haven't read any of the books.

You guys are nuts. Dale's the hottest

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Assuming they're still going to play fast and loose with the comic plot I could see Merle showing up

I watched the first one last night. One of the faults I find with this show is how it deals with the situation the survivors are in and how their shying away from dealing with other survivors in the same desperate situation. I thought it was cool the way they finally met others and wound up shooting them to preserves themselves. They finally touched on some of the nitty gritty of post-apocalypse outside of their own little group.

They need more of that.

Maybe get a random transmission on the radios they carry, see a plane or something of that nature. The same characters killing zombies gets kind of repetitive. Don't get me wrong, it's still entertaining seeing zombies get rocked for an hour a week but they've been milking the same circumstances a little too long.

You'll really like where the series goes from here if it follows the comics at all. The comics are really more about humans becoming the "beasts" with the zombies being just sort of a periphereal threat that serves to expose the animal nature of humanity (very Lord of the Flies).

Should have specified - first one of the new season.

That's awesome. Zombies can only off so much to the plot. They might as well have the farm swarmed by a hoard and have them all break out into a musical dance at this point.

To quote a game I used to play

"The beast we are less the beast we become."

Rep for anyone who can tell me the game.

I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but Shane is probably a goner soon. Hes been cast in Darbonts new series.



Milo Ventimiglia, who grew famous playing Peter Petrelli on "Heroes," is set and “Walking Dead” star Jon Bernthal is in negotiations to star in Frank Darabont’s TNT period cops-and-gangsters pilot “L.A. Noir,” according to Deadline Hollywood.

The casting of Bernthal suggests the character of Shane Walsh, played by Bernthal, will be shot to death and/or fed to zombies at some point in the next four episodes of “The Walking Dead.”

Darabont, writer-director of period prison dramas “The Shawshank Redemption” and “The Green Mile” as well as “The Mist,” masterminded AMC’s “Walking Dead” series until he was fired last summer.

Ventimiglia and Bernthal would play men who served together during World War II before finding their ways to 1940s Los Angeles. The Bernthal character would be a mob lawyer.

Still to be cast is L.A. gang boss Mickey Cohen (memorably played by Harvey Keitel in “Bugsy”).

The proposed series is based on John Buntin’s “L.A. Noir: The Struggle For The Soul Of America’s Most Seductive City.”


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I would think he could take that roll, and do both until he learns whether or not L.A. Noire will succeed or not. That's what I'd try and do anyway, if they were both filmed in the same area anyway...

A Rick/Shane confrontation is certainly what they're working towards at the end of the season, but I'm hoping that doesn't mean Shane dies. He could just get driven away from the group.

Shane's character is one of the reasons this show has kept my interest, so I hope they don't cut him loose. It seems they may, though.

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Wasn't exactly sure how to do a spoiler so the second one is my response.

I wonder how long they are going to milk the story line about the fence post kid. You know there will be a split camp on whether to just kill him (Shane and Andrea maybe Rick's useless wife) and rehab him (Rick, Dale). The redneck will be interesting since his brother was left to die, he may not want to just set the guy 'free' with a mangled leg.

I don't think the Rick and Shane preview this week is the big blowup we expect.

you guys got me thinking about the father and son from episode one. I can't believe that hasn't been revisited yet. I keep seeing the father popping up all over the place. he had a fairly big role on HBO's Hung until recently. not sure if he's out of the picture there or not but it seems so. I just keep seeing him in stuff. I wonder why he disappeard from Walking Dead? maybe he's become kinda in demand?

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The part where he's relieving some stress with his sniper rifle in season one, while crying uncontrollably is one of the more powerful scenes in in the show, imo..

last ep started out good with some action finally and then disolved quickly into more blah blah blah blah blah.... i think it would be awesome if woody harrelson showed up in a hummer wearing a cowboy hat