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Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 16705189)
Then you're postponing / canceling games everytime a meat wagon gets called out.

Good luck making that work.

the guy is drunk. reerunnd or both

Megatron96 01-02-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16705175)
Watching ESPN the Bills are still at the stadium and Diggs just walked into the hospital.

That sob SVP is making me tear up. Bastard.

ReynardMuldrake 01-02-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16705058)
I do believe he should hand been in that ambulance much, much, sooner.

Have you ever posted a single goddamn thing worth a damn? Every single time you open your mouth the board is worse off for it.

FloridaMan88 01-02-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16705120)
I dislike Roger Goodell, a lot.

But, the NFL getting hammered by people like Ryan Clark is getting a little out of hand.

Police stood outside a classroom while children were murdered, and one of the reasons was poor communication between people on the scene.

The Commissioner wasn't in attendance, as far as I know, and the President of the NFLPA was not in attendance, as far as I know.

It is understandable that the decision makers took time to get the correct information, talk to all concerned parties, and discuss options and possibilities, before making a decision or a statement to the media.

This situation is obviously not common, and for the most part unprecedented. The correct decision was made, and that's what matters.

Making millions of dollars playing the game that is a business, then talking about the game that is a business, and then criticizing the game because it's really a business, just doesn't resonate with me.

The NFL didn't come to Ryan Clark's house and force him to play in the NFL, so why suddenly act like the NFL being a business is evil?

Everyone, absolutely everyone involved in the NFL wants the young man to be well and to recover.

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If Ryan Clark feels that strongly then he should quit his multi-millionaire job at ESPN as an analyst for the league/game he finds so evil.

Go work at a toll booth.

KingPriest2 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16705194)
Diggs staying in BUF seems to indicate the rest of the team will be back soon.

I'd bet they gave them the option to stay or go.

Staying in Cinci not Buffalo. The Buses are still at the stadium

RetiredSeniorChief 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

The game has a score, they can make it final anytime they want.

DaFace 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16705181)
It's wild to watch soooo much energy around this game come crashing to a halt.



Kind of puts the hoopla into perspective.

Agreed. There's no chance any makeup game will have anywhere near the intensity of those first few drives.

-King- 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2 (Post 16705195)
It was the coaches and players who did no the NFL

The coaches can't just announce the game is postponed. They all talked to each other. They literally showed clips of McDermott, Taylor, the head ref and an NFL official talking on the field. And there was for sure communication with other people in new York. And the NFL announced it.

BWillie 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16705197)
I'm seriously not seeing how the NFL ****ed up.

how ?

They exist.

Something bad happened.

Must be someones fault.

Ming the Merciless 01-02-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 16705198)
Yeah, good luck telling that to the players in their faces. I most certainly would wager that you wouldn't last long against them.

put the rest of the 24 pack of Busch light back in the fridge, earl

BigRedChief 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

Commotio Cordis Can do this. Trauma to the chest at the exact moment a new heartbeat was to begin I’d see it in car crashes when they went into the steering wheel. As long as you near professionals or they get to you within a couple of minutes you can be saved with no long term effects.

jerryaldini 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

Ryan Clark and SVP have done really well tonight. Clark representing the player and their family's perspective so we'll.

ChiefsCountry 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16705188)
That's not what happened.

Referees were following protocol about what to do after a long injury timeout. The NFL then stepped in and postponed the game to get more info and talk to the coaches.

Shhh let the faux outrage on the internet play out instead of using facts.

mr. tegu 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

Reality is that whether or not he makes a full recovery might be a while before a result is in. He might be listed as expected to make a full recovery in the next day or so or perhaps some damage occurred or whatever but you can’t just wait for resolution on his condition to determine this game being played as it could be weeks. Seems best case scenario is brain scans come back negative and it’s announced he is staying for observation and is expected to slowly recover.

trndobrd 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16705116)
I know Goodell and the top execs aren't there and on the field, but why the **** did it come down to the teams deciding this? Why is it so hard for Goodell, who surely is getting real time info and updates of exactly what's happening, to just immediately suspend the game at the very least? Pretty unbelievable Goodell couldn't make the obvious declaration.


Nobody was "getting real time info and updates of exactly what's happening", not the teams, not the game officials, not the broadcasters and not the NFL New York office.

The rule for extended game delays is a warm up period then resume the game. That, along with a normalcy bias that Hamlin would be OK, I don't have a issue with the NFL waiting to make a decision. I have no problem with allowing the teams involved and officials the ground making the decision and the Commissioner backing it up.

Coochie liquor 01-02-2023 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16705130)
Good for them. Tell Roger to suck a dick.

Exactly. This is way more important than any football game. Hope this kid pulls through. So ****ing sad.

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 10:24 PM

the ying yang of seeing the best football can be to the worst.

RINGLEADER 01-02-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16705184)
Would still surprise me if they hadn't been given some indication by now about what to expect going forward.

Probably just don't know what to do and hopefully their lack of quick response is because they're focusing on what really matters right now -- which is Hamlin. They can come up with answers later. I can't see them playing this game so whatever solution they come up with can wait.

007 01-02-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16705208)
Agreed. There's no chance any makeup game will have anywhere near the intensity of those first few drives.


It's going to reverberate into this weekends games as well.

St. Patty's Fire 01-02-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16705199)
I literally don’t care about this game or the outcome anymore. I am probably a pussy when it comes to this stuff but I am on vacation, and was watching this in a room full of people partying and drinking. And was fighting tears back for a while over this. Just rough! Love my Chiefsplanet fam! I’m going to bed! Hoping for some positive news in the morning.

that doesnt make you a pussy at all man it just means you can healthily deal with your emotions

BleedingRed 01-02-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16705186)
newsflash you ****ing idiot: the game is canceled

Welp we are the one seed

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 16705189)
Then you're postponing / canceling games everytime a meat wagon gets called out.

Good luck making that work.

What happened to Hamlin is more immediate and direct than maybe anything that's ever happened to a player in the NFL, but that is true and that's the other unspoken thing here with all this. We're all watching a sport here where guys are literally destroying their bodies and their brains for our entertainment (granted they are at least well compensated for it). We just don't have to see the results of that 20-30 years down the road for these guys, but it is happening and it is shortening lifespans. Where do you draw the line with stuff like this?

BleedingRed 01-02-2023 10:26 PM

Lmao down voting the truth

-King- 01-02-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16705228)
What happened to Hamlin is more immediate and direct than maybe anything that's ever happened to a player in the NFL, but that is true and that's the other unspoken thing here with all this. We're all watching a sport here where guys are literally destroying their bodies and their brains for our entertainment. We just don't have to see the results of that 20-30 years down the road for these guys, but it is happening and it is shortening lifespans. Where do you draw the line with stuff like this?

The line is on the contract. And they sign their names above that line.

Color Red 01-02-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16705143)
Buffalo beat the Chiefs though. That could be used as a tiebreaker, even if they're 13-3 and the Chiefs 14-3.

Well, record and winning percentage would be the determinant before head-to-head competition.

Shag 01-02-2023 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16705156)
Sure. And I think the Chiefs would be completely understanding if that were the call made.

Somebody's going to get screwed. Could be Buffalo and Cincy by making them play rushed games just as the playoffs are starting up. Could be just Buffalo by telling them they have to forfeit. Could be the Chiefs by making a decision like this.

There's no perfect or ideal solution. And there's no compromise. People just have to be adults and roll with something and be understanding that the circumstances are what they are.

I can't see the NFL calling up KC and making them choose if they want the 1 or 2 seed - that's an unwinnable situation, and not one the NFL should put any team in. Ultimately, the NFL has to sack up and make some tough choices, knowing it's impossible to make everyone happy. Personally, I think it would have to come down to winning %, and it is what it is - a shitty situation all around.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

Hospital was preparing some sort of Press release but it's been cancelled.

dirk digler 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Damar Hamlin’s agent Ira Turner of <a href="https://twitter.com/Agency1AMG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Agency1AMG</a>: <br><br>“Please continue to pray for Damar and his family. We currently have no update at this time. Will ask that you keep the family in your prayers.“</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1610129764404334593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

Guys, I tend to hate the NFL/Goodell as much as anyone, but we need to pump the brakes just a skosh here. Pretty much all the NFL has done so far is follow their playbook of procedures. Which is what they're there for. To buy them time to think up the right response. Now, in this particular case, which has never happened before in anyone's memory, the playbook is falling short of the proper response. But it's also really vanilla. That's what the playbook is for. Slow things down until they can figure out what to actually do. Every large corporation operates like this.

They're waiting to see what happens with Hamlin before they do anything, that's all.

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

I can’t even imagine what Tee Higgins is thinking/feeling right now.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16705222)
I can't see them playing this game so whatever solution they come up with can wait.

Both teams will want to play it after Hamlin is stabilized, if only to honor him.

If he dies it's different. I can see a week of mourning ala 9/11.

BryanBusby 01-02-2023 10:28 PM

Make sure some of you wear different shades of lipstick so we can tell who can go the furthest down on Roger's old wrinkly cock.

TLO 01-02-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16705234)
Hospital was preparing some sort of Press release but it's been cancelled.

Welp

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16705234)
Hospital was preparing some sort of Press release but it's been cancelled.

Is that good or bad?

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 16705222)
Probably just don't know what to do and hopefully their lack of quick response is because they're focusing on what really matters right now -- which is Hamlin. They can come up with answers later. I can't see them playing this game so whatever solution they come up with can wait.

That's the human thing to do, but the NFL is a massive billion dollar business. They have to think about the answers to these questions now, their entire postseason depends on it.

BigRedChief 01-02-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16705205)
If Ryan Clark feels that strongly then he should quit his multi-millionaire job at ESPN as an analyst for the league/game he finds so evil.

Go work at a toll booth.

I was upset with some of his comments. I’ve been in way too many to remember conversations with a parent who can’t stay with their kid in the hospital. They have to go to work. Other kids involved. No support at home. Family is from out of town etc.

Not everyone has the financial means to drop everything and be with their kid. 24/7 in the hospital. They have to work.

kepp 01-02-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705242)
Is that good or bad?

It's hard for me to imagine it being good

SupDock 01-02-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16705243)
That's the human thing to do, but the NFL is a massive billion dollar business. They have to think about the answers to these questions now, their entire postseason depends on it.

I certainly wouldn’t want to make those calls.

Sassy Squatch 01-02-2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705242)
Is that good or bad?

Unfortunately I don't think that's anything good.

dirk digler 01-02-2023 10:31 PM

Hospital can't really release any information it has to come from the family due to HIPAA.

mr. tegu 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16705234)
Hospital was preparing some sort of Press release but it's been cancelled.


Make sense. Just opens it up to even more questions and speculation.

“When will testing be completed?”

“Don’t know.”

And so on.

Megatron96 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

Damn. Well, hopefully good news in the morning. Out

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

I've always thought the league was whistling past the graveyard when it came to near fatal injuries.



I mean the second they have an actual contingency plan for.. well, this, they get sued to oblivion.

SupDock 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16705245)
It's hard for me to imagine it being good

Possibly the people who usually make those releases don’t feel up to it.

Anything that gets released is at the discretion of the patient/MPOA

Bowser 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705238)
I can’t even imagine what Tee Higgins is thinking/feeling right now.

Yeah

DenverChief 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705242)
Is that good or bad?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the NFL/Team/Agent want to be the "mouthpiece" - if there is a press conference it will be by the Team.

BryanBusby 01-02-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705242)
Is that good or bad?

Just means nothing new to report. Right now, I'd consider that good news.

MMXcalibur 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16705236)
Guys, I tend to hate the NFL/Goodell as much as anyone, but we need to pump the brakes just a skosh here. Pretty much all the NFL has done so far is follow their playbook of procedures. Which is what they're there for. To buy them time to think up the right response. Now, in this particular case, which has never happened before in anyone's memory, the playbook is falling short of the proper response. But it's also really vanilla. That's what the playbook is for. Slow things down until they can figure out what to actually do. Every large corporation operates like this.

They're waiting to see what happens with Hamlin before they do anything, that's all.

To hell with you and your perfectly measured response!

Kman34 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

Good nite everyone.. Hoping for good new on this kid tomorrow..

Why Not? 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16705242)
Is that good or bad?

Guess it depends on how much one believes in the old saying about no news.

DaFace 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16705249)
Make sense. Just opens it up to even more questions and speculation.

“When will testing be completed?”

“Don’t know.”

And so on.

It's also almost midnight there. Can't imagine it's normal for the hospital to be hosting press conferences in the middle of the night.

BigRedChief 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16705248)
Hospital can't really release any information it has to come from the family due to HIPAA.

Or family signs a release.

SupDock 01-02-2023 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16705249)
Make sense. Just opens it up to even more questions and speculation.

“When will testing be completed?”

“Don’t know.”

And so on.

That’s my thought too. The ED or critical care team might have just said “no” and the PR team was a few drinks deep at home before shit hit the fan.

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16705231)
The line is on the contract. And they sign their names above that line.

Of course, they understand the risks and get well compensated for them. That's the way it works.

I'm just referring to unspoken truth here that this is a very dangerous game that is effectively killing its participants and that if you start cancelling games over player injuries, where does it end exactly for the league?

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16705246)
I certainly wouldn’t want to make those calls.

Goodell certainly gets paid enough to do so. He's gonna have to.

dlphg9 01-02-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16705213)
Commotio Cordis Can do this. Trauma to the chest at the exact moment a new heartbeat was to begin I’d see it in car crashes when they went into the steering wheel. As long as you near professionals or they get to you within a couple of minutes you can be saved with no long term effects.

How many times did you see this?

Mr. Plow 01-02-2023 10:39 PM

Watched more ESPN tonight than I have in a long time just hoping for good news. It's like the old days of rewatching ESPN highlight shows from 7a-11a over and over with really no new info coming. But, I can't turn it off.

KC Hawks 01-02-2023 10:40 PM

Kayvon Thibodeaux is still doing snow angels in his living room.

Chris Meck 01-02-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16705236)
Guys, I tend to hate the NFL/Goodell as much as anyone, but we need to pump the brakes just a skosh here. Pretty much all the NFL has done so far is follow their playbook of procedures. Which is what they're there for. To buy them time to think up the right response. Now, in this particular case, which has never happened before in anyone's memory, the playbook is falling short of the proper response. But it's also really vanilla. That's what the playbook is for. Slow things down until they can figure out what to actually do. Every large corporation operates like this.

They're waiting to see what happens with Hamlin before they do anything, that's all.

Yeah.

You're right.

George Liquor 01-02-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16705270)
Watched more ESPN tonight than I have in a long time just hoping for good news. It's like the old days of rewatching ESPN highlight shows from 7a-11a over and over with really no new info coming. But, I can't turn it off.

Stephen A Smith is as good a reason as any

BWillie 01-02-2023 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16705263)
Of course, they understand the risks and get well compensated for them. That's the way it works.

I'm just referring to unspoken truth here that this is a very dangerous game that is effectively killing its participants and that if you start cancelling games over player injuries, where does it end exactly for the league?

Dozens of high schoolers die every couple years from football. Where was the outrage? As usual, society freaks out solely when it is exposed for all to see even though they already knew about it.

ChiefsFanatic 01-02-2023 10:40 PM

Roger Goodell is terrible, but people need to realize that this situation and how to deal with it, this late in the season, isn't only up to him. The NFLPA, and probably some fine print in the CBA, have to be part of the decision as well.

There could be playoff shares, incentive bonuses, etc. etc. that come into play, as well as any decisions the players make has to be approved by the NFLPA.

What happened on the field is a tragedy. I have been sick to my stomach since I saw him collapse, but decisions that affect at least 200 other players and coaches cannot be made immediately.

Imagine if you are on a team affected by this, and it affects your ability to earn a performance or incentive bonus. Would you take legal action against the league and the NFLPA because you lost money due to a player on another team being hurt?

There are probably so many factors that we cannot even imagine, that will have to be considered before deciding what the outcome will be, etc.


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TLO 01-02-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16705270)
Watched more ESPN tonight than I have in a long time just hoping for good news. It's like the old days of rewatching ESPN highlight shows from 7a-11a over and over with really no new info coming. But, I can't turn it off.

Man I was thinking the same thing. I haven't watched ESPN in ages but I couldn't turn it off until a few minutes ago.

Demonpenz 01-02-2023 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16705270)
Watched more ESPN tonight than I have in a long time just hoping for good news. It's like the old days of rewatching ESPN highlight shows from 7a-11a over and over with really no new info coming. But, I can't turn it off.

obsessing about it

BigRedChief 01-02-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16705260)
It's also almost midnight there. Can't imagine it's normal for the hospital to be hosting press conferences in the middle of the night.

and with incomplete information. It’ll be in the am.

KC_Connection 01-02-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16705275)
Dozens of high schoolers die every couple years from football. Where was the outrage? As usual, society freaks out solely when it is exposed for all to see even though they already knew about it.

Well I'm sure the NFL understands very well what their product is even if all of their consumers don't (or just don't want to think about it).

Stinger 01-02-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 16704959)
Here is the Toy Drive

https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the...nity-toy-drive

Almost $550,000 raised.

A little positive break for the thread. Toy Drive Now over 1 Million.

KingPriest2 01-02-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16705209)
The coaches can't just announce the game is postponed. They all talked to each other. They literally showed clips of McDermott, Taylor, the head ref and an NFL official talking on the field. And there was for sure communication with other people in new York. And the NFL announced it.

The players were refusing to play on. Coaches were with them. They weren’t going to play. They were in shock. They were in no position to play. Faxt is the players on both sides did not want to play It’s not hard to understand. Smh

The nfl had to announce it because the players didn’t want to Again not hard to understand

BWillie 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

Lost alot of respect for Ryan Clark tonight and his knee jerk grandstanding.

notorious 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

Medical testing and service takes a frustrating amount of time.

I just went through several days in the ER for both my parents the last few months.

I can't imagine this is any different.

Athis 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

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Mr. Plow 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16705274)
Stephen A Smith is as good a reason as any

Yup, I'm a little behind and he just popped up on my TV. Guess that's a good enough to turn it off.

jerryaldini 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

Clark made an interesting point. The players at one point believed the league would require continuance. We saw Diggs trying to rally the bills players with a speech. They've all seen situations where the game goes on. Just a devastating scenario. Imagine if they did feel forced to play.

Bowser 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16705236)
Guys, I tend to hate the NFL/Goodell as much as anyone, but we need to pump the brakes just a skosh here. Pretty much all the NFL has done so far is follow their playbook of procedures. Which is what they're there for. To buy them time to think up the right response. Now, in this particular case, which has never happened before in anyone's memory, the playbook is falling short of the proper response. But it's also really vanilla. That's what the playbook is for. Slow things down until they can figure out what to actually do. Every large corporation operates like this.

They're waiting to see what happens with Hamlin before they do anything, that's all.

Good levelheaded take.

In situations like this, I think it's easy to want to assign blame and divert emotion to a target. That's likely what I was doing, and it wasn't fair of me to assume there weren't protocols in place and Goodell would defer to coaches and players that experienced it firsthand. Thanks for the check.

Chiefspants 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

The big (and only) mistake the NFL made was giving word to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman that play was resuming in 5 minutes.

Anyone watching at that moment could tell from the players reactions that this was not a typical cart on the field injury. The NFL needed to adapt, because even in this thread we were all saying there was no way play could resume.

The players, McDermott and Taylor made a different call and the NFL honored it. Not sure what more the NFL could have done after the coaches made the call to go to the locker room.

Oh Snap 01-02-2023 10:43 PM

How many ppl here have given CPR? I've given 5 min of good chest compressions. The ribs always break. It also means he was not breathing on his own. The fact he was put under intubation (tube down his windpipe) means he isn't breathing on his own.

He's probably brain dead at this point if he is even alive. The family is likely being faced with a very difficult decision on whether to proceed with care, or take him off the machines keeping him "alive". I hope to God none of this is what is actually happening.

ChiefsCountry 01-02-2023 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16705284)
Lost alot of respect for Ryan Clark tonight and his knee jerk grandstanding.

Meh he is always an ass clown like that. He wouldn't work with Sage Steele because she had a different political view than he does.

KurtCobain 01-02-2023 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16705236)
Now, in this particular case, which has never happened before in anyone's memory

A lions player died on the field in 1970. They continued to play the game afterwards.

Also, wasnt a Bills player 15 years ago or so essentially parylized on the field and the game went on? I remember that being even scarier on field than this.

Discuss Thrower 01-02-2023 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16705228)
What happened to Hamlin is more immediate and direct than maybe anything that's ever happened to a player in the NFL, but that is true and that's the other unspoken thing here with all this. We're all watching a sport here where guys are literally destroying their bodies and their brains for our entertainment (granted they are at least well compensated for it). We just don't have to see the results of that 20-30 years down the road for these guys, but it is happening and it is shortening lifespans. Where do you draw the line with stuff like this?

Why didn't the NCAA postpone the game when Kevin Ware snapped his leg during the final four? That happened right in front of his team's bench too. At eye level thanks to their stupid insistence on playing on elevated platforms.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 10:44 PM

have a feeling we see a lot of business decisions saturday and sunday and i don't blame any of them


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