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O.city 02-08-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793545)
Won’t lie, life is easier when you realize that talking heads are paid to give an opinion, not be correct.

What gets me is that these guys give these opinons and such on why x or y will happen.

The game happens and none of what they say comes to fruition

There's no "so hey, you were wrong on this and that, etc". It's just on to the next thing.

ReynardMuldrake 02-08-2023 11:36 AM

I think the only way we lose is if Philly runs all over us, which they are capable of doing.

Stop the run, jump to an early lead, force Philly to play from behind. Do that and we should easily be favorites.

tredadda 02-08-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793549)
What gets me is that these guys give these opinons and such on why x or y will happen.

The game happens and none of what they say comes to fruition

There's no "so hey, you were wrong on this and that, etc". It's just on to the next thing.

Only Nick Wright seems to call out anyone on it.

Mecca 02-08-2023 11:40 AM

ESPN has multiple employees who come from the Philly sports scene so it's not at all surprising.

tredadda 02-08-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 16793553)
I think the only way we lose is if Philly runs all over us, which they are capable of doing.

Stop the run, jump to an early lead, force Philly to play from behind. Do that and we should easily be favorites.

To my understanding Hurts’ throwing shoulder is not 100%. If that’s true then KC needs to force him to beat them by throwing it.

HC_Chief 02-08-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793549)
What gets me is that these guys give these opinons and such on why x or y will happen.

The game happens and none of what they say comes to fruition

There's no "so hey, you were wrong on this and that, etc". It's just on to the next thing.

Eisen, who I like btw, posted a mea culpa today :thumb:

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Lzen 02-08-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16793537)
But I just saw Damien Woody smash a chiefs minihelmet, xburt analisis

Patriots trash.

Shields68 02-08-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793562)
To my understanding Hurts’ throwing shoulder is not 100%. If that’s true then KC needs to force him to beat them by throwing it.

Think that is pretty much every teams plan going in. He has had 2 very easy playoff games and no one has forced them to throw deep. Strong running game plus Wr who have been getting open in the medium routes is working rather well.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793491)
Unless our defense just falls apart I dont' see Philly blowing us out.

It's basically on our OL. If it holds up, we should be fine.

And for as much shit as we give our OL (well, some of us do), the Chiefs offensive line is among the best units in football. Again, in terms of pass pro win rates, we're the best in the league and by a good chunk.

For all the "The Eagles OL is clearly better than KCs" shit, I just don't see it. To really buy into that talk you have to believe that OBJ is just some slug and I simply don't. He's an above average LT and at least a comparable, if not slightly better, pass blocker than Mailata is. Obviously we don't have a Lane Johnson on the other side and that's a huge advantage for the Eagles, but we're not a team that wrecks things on the edges anyway. In many ways, Lane Johnson is wasted on us. We'll have Karlaftis and Dunlap their their body at him 65 times and hope catch him napping once or twice. Okay, I can live with that.

The Eagles have an OL with no obvious holes, I'll grant them that. Seumalo and Dickerson are nice players flanking Kelce. But from LT through RG, the Chiefs are their equal. That's especially the case when you consider what we do. There isn't a single LG in football I'd take for this team over Joe Thuney.
Hell, there's not even a CLOSE second. Creed and Kelce wash. I do think Smith is somewhat miscast here but we actually DO run the ball some and when we do, he's the guy who makes it work.

So we're talking one guy in Wylie and when that's the difference you're faced with, you can scheme it. Our OL can play theirs to a draw, IMO.

This isn't the Bucs SB where we had weakness EVERYWHERE. And that's what got us blown out.

It ain't happening Sunday.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793562)
To my understanding Hurts’ throwing shoulder is not 100%. If that’s true then KC needs to force him to beat them by throwing it.

I said it it one of the safety threads, but this feels like a game where Thornhill could be a MASSIVE asset.

This feels like a Cover 3 game to me. Keep Reid nearer to the box and force Hurts to beat us over the top or with precision passing. If he's trying to bomb the ball, stay in 3. If he's trying to work underneath, get into Cover 1 man situations more frequently.

But Thornhill is the key to being able to play either effectively, IMO. If he can keep them from hitting one of the early shot plays that they'll absolutely try to Brown or Smith, that will be massive.

RunKC 02-08-2023 11:52 AM

Yeah their OL is a bit overrated when you dive into the context:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2.8<br>8.2!!<br>3.4<br>3<br>4.5<br>4<br>6.1!<br>3.4<br><br>YPC numbers since 12.1.22</p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1623160845814333443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16793525)
These talking heads are making their picks based upon spreadsheets rather than watching the games. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "The Eagles are the much better team... if you compare player by player the Eagles are so much better..." well, I'd have a lot of dollars! :D They are L A Z Y. Same shit, different week.

The guys who spend their time studying film and breaking down the gameplans, execution, and coaching rarely regurgitate that stupid "if you compare all of the positions" mantra. What they are saying is "this is going to be one hell of a game!", often followed by "I think KC wins it because Mahomes is that guy, the KC D is vastly underrated, and Reid & Co are the better coaches who have been there before and won it all".

It's literally the same script from the other 2 SBs we played in. We proved it wrong against SF and in the end the OL damage was just too significant against TB so I think it ended up largely null.

But this idea that the Chiefs are just scrappy underdogs with an elite quarterback is such bullshit and does such a massive disservice to a team with 6 All Pros (and that felt at least 1, possibly 2 light, IMO).

This is a ****ing good football team and anyone that can't see that is selling you something.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793549)
What gets me is that these guys give these opinons and such on why x or y will happen.

The game happens and none of what they say comes to fruition

There's no "so hey, you were wrong on this and that, etc". It's just on to the next thing.

Welcome to 24x7 news "entertainment".

Just watch your local news. The weatherman is ALWAYS wrong and nobody ever says a thing.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793583)
It's literally the same script from the other 2 SBs we played in. We proved it wrong against SF and in the end the OL damage was just too significant against TB so I think it ended up largely null.

But this idea that the Chiefs are just scrappy underdogs with an elite quarterback is such bullshit and does such a massive disservice to a team with 6 All Pros (and that felt at least 1, possibly 2 light, IMO).

This is a ****ing good football team and anyone that can't see that is selling you something.

:clap:

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16793504)
More so the run defense. I'm not too worried about the pass d.

I said it prior to the Bengals game - there is ZERO reason why this team can't stop the run if that's what it focuses on. And it HAS stopped it against a team like the Eagles in Tennessee in the playoffs.

And that TN team had AJ Brown and Corey Davis. It had a good OL. It had a physical, aggressive defense.

I mean we keep hearing everyone compare these guys to some hybrid version of the '85 Bears defense and '21 Ravens offense but....what if they're just the 2019 Titans with a pussy schedule? And if you insist they aren't, why not?

I'm just so damn tired of this every year. Whatever team we face is just clearly superior to us in every way but quarterback and to hell with the fact that we've piss pounded squads just like them with regularity this season (49ers) and in seasons prior.

tredadda 02-08-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793583)
It's literally the same script from the other 2 SBs we played in. We proved it wrong against SF and in the end the OL damage was just too significant against TB so I think it ended up largely null.

But this idea that the Chiefs are just scrappy underdogs with an elite quarterback is such bullshit and does such a massive disservice to a team with 6 All Pros (and that felt at least 1, possibly 2 light, IMO).

This is a ****ing good football team and anyone that can't see that is selling you something.

Honestly I think most know KC is a really good team. I also think Chiefs fatigue is real and setting in and as such they find ways to pick holes in this team or downplay them.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 12:02 PM

FYI - the person that's being slept on that I'm actually damn worried about? Dallas Goedert.

I do see a matchup issue for us there defensively. If we focus on slowing the run game, we're gonna have some guys out there that aren't ideal in space and Goedert can punish us for that.

I feel like he'll have a big game if the Eagles win it.

staylor26 02-08-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16793582)
Yeah their OL is a bit overrated when you dive into the context:

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Wow. This is pretty crazy.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2023 12:17 PM

It sometimes feels like Chris Simms and Louis Reddick are the only guys who realize the Chiefs front is physical and tough.

It’s not just Jones, either. The upside of Spags DEs is that when you don’t have Bitchmade DEs like Dee Ford, you don’t have to worry about a pretty boy type not doing his job or being regularly WHAM blocked by a slot WR.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16793604)
Wow. This is pretty crazy.

Because again, Hurts isn't a dynamic runner.

And they need the threat of his arm to set up the run with him (and Sanders as well).

They aren't the powerhouse they're being sold as. And this idea that Hurts needs to only be okay for the rest of the team to just blow past KC is asinine.

They need Hurts throwing the ball better than he has of late and if he's not sound and not able to do that, they're in a lot of trouble.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16793620)
It sometimes feels like Chris Simms and Louis Reddick are the only guys who realize the Chiefs front is physical and tough.

It’s not just Jones, either. The upside of Spags DEs is that when you don’t have Bitchmade DEs like Dee Ford, you don’t have to worry about a pretty boy type not doing his job or being regularly WHAM blocked by a slot WR.

Right?

Who are you going to push around? Clark's probably the 'lightest' DE we have. Danna gets pressure from the interior FFS. Dunlap has grown ass man strength. Jones is a wagon, as is Saunders, Nnadi and Williams. Karlaftis has some functional strength he could add but as far as rookies go, find me a sturdier one.

And that's to say nothing of probably the best tackler in the game right now in Bolton or a guy in Gay who is the perfect example of 'force = mass*acceleration' as it applies to football.

This isn't some soft group. We're a defense built around our offense - we play with light boxes a lot because teams have to throw to keep up with us. And yes, that makes us susceptible to getting beat on the ground at times - because we allow it.

If Hurts can't throw, the Eagles can't run on this front, IMO.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793621)
Because again, Hurts isn't a dynamic runner.

And they need the threat of his arm to set up the run with him (and Sanders as well).

They aren't the powerhouse they're being sold as. And this idea that Hurts needs to only be okay for the rest of the team to just blow past KC is asinine.

They need Hurts throwing the ball better than he has of late and if he's not sound and not able to do that, they're in a lot of trouble.

Yep. Which brings up another thing:

A big part of their winning formula this year was not only playing a lot with a lead but their turnover differential.

If Hurts makes just one errant pass that gets picked off, their whole gameplan could go out the window.

Basileus777 02-08-2023 12:23 PM

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DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 12:25 PM

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Jalen Hurts: 4.6 YPC

Patrick Mahomes: 5.9 YPC

Jalen Hurts isn't even a better runner than Patrick Mahomes is.

Get outta here with this shit...

Direckshun 02-08-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793628)
Right?

Who are you going to push around? Clark's probably the 'lightest' DE we have. Danna gets pressure from the interior FFS. Dunlap has grown ass man strength. Jones is a wagon, as is Saunders, Nnadi and Williams. Karlaftis has some functional strength he could add but as far as rookies go, find me a sturdier one.

And that's to say nothing of probably the best tackler in the game right now in Bolton or a guy in Gay who is the perfect example of 'force = mass*acceleration' as it applies to football.

This isn't some soft group. We're a defense built around our offense - we play with light boxes a lot because teams have to throw to keep up with us. And yes, that makes us susceptible to getting beat on the ground at times - because we allow it.

If Hurts can't throw, the Eagles can't run on this front, IMO.

Probably the only guy you can push around at DE is Karlaftis. Karlaftis is huge and powerful for a DE but his technique and instincts aren't quite there yet against the run. You can run on Furious George for now.

The bigger issue is at tackle. Jones is another level this year but Saunders has had as many good plays against the run as bad plays this year. Nnadi has had more bad than good, and just seems beat up. Brandon Williams remains basically Prime Mike Pennel against the run, but he's so one-dimensional Spags barely plays him.

I almost don't care about Williams' pass rush. The #1 key to losing this game is to let them run on you, and that's it. Every time I've got two tackles on the field, Williams is my NT #1.

But I'm not Spags and that's not how Spags has played him.

Direckshun 02-08-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16793564)
Eisen, who I like btw, posted a mea culpa today :thumb:

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Which is why Rich Eisen is one of the best.

Eisen was actually bullish on the Chiefs this year, too. There's a famous bit about him saying "let's not forget about these guys."

Edit: Here it is:

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KCUnited 02-08-2023 12:31 PM

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Reading through some of the comments and it appears this guy might be Philly's version of BWillie. He's mostly getting laughed at.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-08-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793583)
It's literally the same script from the other 2 SBs we played in. We proved it wrong against SF and in the end the OL damage was just too significant against TB so I think it ended up largely null.

But this idea that the Chiefs are just scrappy underdogs with an elite quarterback is such bullshit and does such a massive disservice to a team with 6 All Pros (and that felt at least 1, possibly 2 light, IMO).

This is a ****ing good football team and anyone that can't see that is selling you something.

Its ridiculous. Since when is football ever just "who has the overall better team, player by player"

May as well just throw the coaches off the sideline, clearly they don't matter. Its all just players and stats, apparently.

Direckshun 02-08-2023 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793597)
FYI - the person that's being slept on that I'm actually damn worried about? Dallas Goedert.

I do see a matchup issue for us there defensively. If we focus on slowing the run game, we're gonna have some guys out there that aren't ideal in space and Goedert can punish us for that.

I feel like he'll have a big game if the Eagles win it.

I find myself okay with that.

Goedert can go for 8 catches for 120 so long as we're blanketing Brown and we're filling the run lanes.

I think Goedert and Smith are going to pop a few plays, but I don't think they're the reason you lose the Super Bowl. Brown and Hurts are.

raybec 4 02-08-2023 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16793645)
Reading through some of the comments and it appears this guy might be Philly's version of BWillie. He's mostly getting laughed at.

Ooof....did his super computer tell him Hurts was better?

Direckshun 02-08-2023 12:52 PM

Walter Football weighs in.
Kansas City Chiefs (14-3) vs. Philadelphia Eagles (14-3)
Line: Eagles by 1.5. Total: 51.


PHILADELPHIA OFFENSE: It goes without saying that Patrick Mahomes is one of the major reasons why the Chiefs prevailed over the Bengals, but the key to the victory on the other side of the ball was the pass rush battling Cincinnati's offensive line. The Bengals were missing three blockers, which allowed the Kansas City pass rush, enhanced by George Karlaftis' emergence in the second half of the season, to rattle Joe Burrow.

Barring any injuries to Philadelphia's offensive line, the Chiefs will not have similar success in that regard. That's because the Eagles have an elite offensive line. The blocking unit took a hit late in the year when Lane Johnson was knocked out for a game-and-a-half, but Johnson returned for the playoffs. With a week off to heal, Johnson should be at 100 percent.

Hurts will have all the protection he'll need to attack Kansas City's secondary. The Chiefs have some issues in their defensive backfield that will be exploited by A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith. They also don't defend tight ends particularly well, so Dallas Goedert figures to have a strong performance as well.

The Eagles will also have success rushing the ball. The Chiefs have improved versus the run following some struggles earlier in the season, but it's so difficult to defend Philadelphia's ground attack because Jalen Hurts is also a threat to run. Kenneth Gainwell has particularly shined during the playoff stretch, as he's a dynamic receiver out of the backfield. The Chiefs have difficulty stopping pass-catching running backs, so Gainwell could be a problem.

KANSAS CITY OFFENSE: Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL, but the best quarterbacks in the NFL don't always perform well in the Super Bowl. Mahomes was blown out by the Buccaneers two years ago. Tom Brady was limited in two matchups versus the Giants. There are other examples of this, as Dan Marino, John Elway, and Peyton Manning have all suffered defeats in the "big game."

The common thread between the Mahomes and Brady losses was that the two quarterbacks were battling elite pass-rushing units. I've said this many times, but the only way to defeat an elite quarterback without outscoring them in a shootout is to pressure them heavily and consistently without blitzing. Mahomes, like all elite quarterbacks, is tremendous versus the blitz.

Thus, it's a good thing for the Eagles that they don't blitz very much. That's because they don't need to do so. Philadelphia can set the all-time record for sacks in the regular season and playoffs combined if they get to Mahomes on four occasions, which could happen. The Eagles' stalwart defensive front has a big advantage over the Chiefs' blocking in the trenches.

Making matters worse for Mahomes, his lackluster receivers don't stand a chance to get open versus Philadelphia's elite cornerbacks. Travis Kelce will have a great performance, but the wide receivers won't be able to separate. Meanwhile, Isiah Pacheco and Jerick McKinnon won't find much running room against an Eagles ground defense that has improved markedly since Jordan Davis returned from injury.

RECAP:

The Eagles are favored by 1.5 points as of this writing, but any concern that they'll be cocky as favorites is quelled by the narrative portrayed by blue-check journalists heading into this game. The dumb hive mind believes the following:

The Eagles are so lucky to be in the Super Bowl. They got to battle Daniel Jones and a one-armed Brock Purdy!

While this is true, Philadelphia demolished its competition, as it had done all year except for a multi-week swoon in November when the team seemed to lose focus. This is not the Vikings, who barely scraped by inferior competition all year. The Eagles have crushed their opponents, including the Giants and 49ers. This is because they have the best roster in the NFL. I believed this when I made a 33/1 wager on them to win the Super Bowl back in July, and I believe it now.

Focusing more on this game, Philadelphia's roster is clearly superior to Kansas City's. Aside from quarterback and tight end, I challenge you to find a position where the Chiefs are better than the Eagles. Maybe safety, but I think that's about even. Philadelphia is a bit better at running back and way better at receiver, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, and cornerback. Now, you might be saying to yourself, "How can you just brush off quarterback like that? Mahomes will carry the Chiefs to a win!"

If you're thinking that, here's where you're mistaken. The superior quarterback in the Super Bowl has a losing track record. That's right. Just take a look at the results since 2000:

2000 - Kerry Collins over Trent Dilfer: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2001 - Kurt Warner over Tom Brady*: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2002 - Rich Gannon over Brad Johnson: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2003 - Tom Brady over Jake Delhomme: Win SU, Loss ATS
2004 - Tom Brady over Donovan McNabb: Win SU, Loss ATS
2005 - (Ben Roethlisberger in second year and Matt Hasselbeck considered even)
2006 - Peyton Manning over Rex Grossman: Win SU, Win ATS

2007 - Tom Brady over Eli Manning: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2008 - (Ben Roethlisberger and Kurt Warner considered even)
2009 - Peyton Manning over Drew Brees: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2010 - Aaron Rodgers over Ben Roethlisberger: Win SU, Win ATS
2011 - Tom Brady over Eli Manning: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2012 - Colin Kaepernick over Joe Flacco: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2013 - Peyton Manning over Russell Wilson: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2014 - Tom Brady over Russell Wilson: Win SU, Win ATS
2015 - Cam Newton over Peyton Manning: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2016 - (Tom Brady and Matt Ryan considered even)**
2017 - Tom Brady over Nick Foles: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2018 - Tom Brady over Jared Goff: Win SU, Win ATS
2019 - Patrick Mahomes over Jimmy Garoppolo: Win SU, Win ATS
2020 - Patrick Mahomes over Tom Brady: Loss SU, Loss ATS
2021 - (Matthew Stafford and Joe Burrow considered even)
2022 - Patrick Mahomes over Jalen Hurts: ??? SU, ??? ATS

* - Tom Brady obviously ended up being better than Kurt Warner, but that wasn't the case in 2001 when Brady was a first-year starter and Warner was MVP.

** - Matt Ryan was MVP in 2016, which is why I designated Ryan and Brady as even ahead of the game.

If you don't feel like tallying up the records, here they are: The superior quarterback in the Super Bowl is 7-11 straight up and 5-13 against the spread.

If the superior quarterback is constantly losing in the Super Bowl, it's likely that the opposing team had the better overall roster, and that's the case in most of those matchups. Taking the Mahomes games, the Buccaneers had a disgusting defense that hounded Mahomes all game, while the Giants defenses did the same thing to Brady. In the Brady-Nick Foles matchup, Philadelphia had the best roster in the NFL that year as well. Despite Brady's 500-plus yards, the Eagles still prevailed with Foles.

Again, I don't think there's a question as to which team is better. Philadelphia's pass rush, receiving corps, offensive line, and cornerback group are so much better than anything the Chiefs possess. It's not even close.

And here's the kicker: Philadelphia's two "weaker" positions, quarterback and tight end, are not much worse than Kansas City's players! Mahomes is obviously better than Hurts, but Hurts just enjoyed an MVP-caliber year. And I'm sure the Eagles would rather have Travis Kelce over Dallas Goedert, but Goedert is arguably a top-five tight end in the NFL.

I'm so convinced that the Eagles will win that I'm making this selection my February NFL Pick of the Month. The last time I made the Super Bowl a Pick of the Month, the Buccaneers destroyed the Chiefs. I think there's a chance this could be a blowout as well, but I'm going with the prediction of 27-21 because I could see Mahomes throwing a touchdown late in the game to make this closer than it should be.

BUT WHAT IF I'M HEDGING!? I'm right there with you. As mentioned, I have a 33/1 ticket on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. I'm going to hedge with the Chiefs by betting up to +3.5. This way, I can middle if the Eagles win by 1-3 points. This is not something I would recommend if you don't have a futures wager on Philadelphia, so keep that in mind.

CasselGotPeedOn 02-08-2023 12:54 PM

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LMAO LMAO LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My takeaway from reaction to this tweet is that people continue to intentionally underrate Hurts and what he’s accomplished/what he can be because of a preconceived notation of what he is as a player <br><br>Mahomes is great. He’s better now. Hurts checks more boxes when building a QB</p>&mdash; Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) <a href="https://twitter.com/EliotShorrParks/status/1623348971774291968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kiimo 02-08-2023 12:55 PM

Counterpoint: Walter Football is a moron who runs a garbage site and the only thing consistent are how horrible his opinions are and he should be forever ignored

AdolfOliverBush 02-08-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793678)
Walter Football weighs in.

Spoiler!

The is where he proves himself to be an idiot:

"The Eagles are favored by 1.5 points as of this writing, but any concern that they'll be cocky as favorites is quelled by the narrative portrayed by blue-check journalists heading into this game. The dumb hive mind believes the following:"

I'm surprised he didn't mix in a "red pill" reference.

HC_Chief 02-08-2023 12:57 PM

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Philadelphia is a bit better at running back and way better at receiver, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, and cornerback.
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Tonka83 02-08-2023 12:57 PM

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That same guy will be calling for Hurt's release if he has a bad game.
He is your typical homer.

The Franchise 02-08-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16793683)
Counterpoint: Walter Football is a moron who runs a garbage site and the only thing consistent are how horrible his opinions are and he should be forever ignored

This.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16793678)
Walter Football weighs in.

I think there's a chance this could be a blowout as well, but I'm going with the prediction of 27-21 because I could see Mahomes throwing a touchdown late in the game to make this closer than it should be.

BUT WHAT IF I'M HEDGING!? I'm right there with you. As mentioned, I have a 33/1 ticket on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. I'm going to hedge with the Chiefs by betting up to +3.5. This way, I can middle if the Eagles win by 1-3 points. This is not something I would recommend if you don't have a futures wager on Philadelphia, so keep that in mind.[/indent]

Phew.

For a second there I thought this dipshit might think we had a shot...

PattyFlakes 02-08-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16793683)
Counterpoint: Walter Football is a moron who runs a garbage site and the only thing consistent are how horrible his opinions are and he should be forever ignored

Accurate.

II. 02-08-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16793683)
Counterpoint: Walter Football is a moron who runs a garbage site and the only thing consistent are how horrible his opinions are and he should be forever ignored

Just another guy with money on the line trying to make himself feel better about it.

kcgreene 02-08-2023 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16793683)
Counterpoint: Walter Football is a moron who runs a garbage site and the only thing consistent are how horrible his opinions are and he should be forever ignored

The guy still has Jalen Hurts as his MVP on the year in his rankings. That's all you need to know.

smithandrew051 02-08-2023 01:12 PM

The QB vs roster discussion is so dumb. I don’t even think the Eagles is even any better than the Chiefs.

I bet Andy Reid could take Hurts and the Chiefs roster to the Super Bowl in this year’s NFC with the schedule and path the Eagles had.

The Chiefs defense would instantly look better playing those trash QBs. Andy would win the Division and likely the 1 seed. Andy, Hurts, and the Chiefs roster would’ve dominated both the Daniel Jones Giants and no QB 49ers.

TEX 02-08-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16793680)
LMAO LMAO LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My takeaway from reaction to this tweet is that people continue to intentionally underrate Hurts and what he’s accomplished/what he can be because of a preconceived notation of what he is as a player <br><br>Mahomes is great. He’s better now. Hurts checks more boxes when building a QB</p>&mdash; Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) <a href="https://twitter.com/EliotShorrParks/status/1623348971774291968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seriously??? ROFL

Nickhead 02-08-2023 01:18 PM

what was mahomes on about at the end of this clip. someone asked him something and it caught him off guard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2J03mE9L-I

ThaVirus 02-08-2023 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16793496)
If those rookie CBs would have faltered against the Bengals...I would be worried. All three stepped up huge though in a game that had huge stakes. AJ Brown is a beast but Smith is no Higgins or Chase.

Brown is actually a bit worrisome. I can't help but think about what he did to us in that 27-3 shellacking against Tennessee in 2021.

I'm not sure if the gameplan will be similar to how we'd always defend the Steelers and just let the RB go off on us and focus on defending the pass or if we're planning on stopping the run first and making Hurts beat us with a bum shoulder.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-08-2023 01:23 PM

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Dude even Eagles fans are tearing this clown apart. That's literally a knowmo take

Megatron96 02-08-2023 01:24 PM

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Lolz, Pretty much every Eagles fan in the comments is dragging this idiot for that take. A few seem to be angry that this dipstick is giving Mahomes bulletin board material.

RunKC 02-08-2023 01:25 PM

Looking good

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First look at the field for Sunday&#39;s Super Bowl in Arizona.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are going with yellow endzones. <a href="https://t.co/cY13rOUCku">pic.twitter.com/cY13rOUCku</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1623159396829212673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 02-08-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 16793724)
what was mahomes on about at the end of this clip. someone asked him something and it caught him off guard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2J03mE9L-I

I think he was referring to the reporter that told him that Rihanna said that she thought that he was the best QB ever and then waited for Mahomes to talk about her before saying that he made it all up.

ThyKingdomCome15 02-08-2023 01:51 PM

This really does feel like the Niners-Chiefs SB. Except I think the Niners were a lot better than this Eagles team and so is our defense. If Pat's ankle is alright and we give Wylie some help we should be good.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 01:53 PM

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Again, I don't think there's a question as to which team is better. Philadelphia's pass rush, receiving corps, offensive line, and cornerback group are so much better than anything the Chiefs possess. It's not even close.
This one is going to go over well when the Chiefs win.

HC_Chief 02-08-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16793793)
This one is going to go over well when the Chiefs win.

Prepare for nonstop "fixed" takes from mouth breathers.

staylor26 02-08-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16793793)
This one is going to go over well when the Chiefs win.

You'd think they would've learned something about the rest of the team between the Jags game and the Bengals game with a hobbled Mahomes, but apparently they didn't even watch, or they're just clueless.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16793799)
You'd think they would've learned something about the rest of the team between the Jags game and the Bengals game with a hobbled Mahomes, but apparently they didn't even watch, or they're just clueless.

The AFCCG was obviously scripted. ROFL

tredadda 02-08-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16793793)
This one is going to go over well when the Chiefs win.

Walter is another one of those who is perpetually wrong yet for whatever reason some people value his opinion.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793803)
Walter is another one of those who is perpetually wrong yet for whatever reason some people value his opinion.

I'd love to see if he did one before the Bengals game because I'd almost be willing to bet a year's salary that it looked almost identical to this one.

KC Hawks 02-08-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16793781)
I think he was referring to the reporter that told him that Rihanna said that she thought that he was the best QB ever and then waited for Mahomes to talk about her before saying that he made it all up.

It was Brandon Marshall.

tredadda 02-08-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16793796)
Prepare for nonstop "fixed" takes from mouth breathers.

Let them. If KC is hoisting the Lombardi then I won't care what anyone says. Think about it, NE was busted cheating twice during the Bill and Brady era. People have forgotten all about that and the Pats still had 6 SBs during that run.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16793737)
Lolz, Pretty much every Eagles fan in the comments is dragging this idiot for that take. A few seem to be angry that this dipstick is giving Mahomes bulletin board material.

And PM is absolutely petty enough to put this idiots tweet in the memory book...

I love him so much.

HC_Chief 02-08-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793815)
And PM is absolutely petty enough to put this idiots tweet in the memory book...

I love him so much.

Someone needs to print a big copy of that tweet and bring it to the AZ events... let Mahomes & team see it every day. :evil:

htismaqe 02-08-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793808)
Let them. If KC is hoisting the Lombardi then I won't care what anyone says. Think about it, NE was busted cheating twice during the Bill and Brady era. People have forgotten all about that and the Pats still had 6 SBs during that run.

For sure.

Pretty much everybody but the hardest of die-hard Pats fans think they cheated, even if they're not totally convinced.

What they ARE convinced of is that Tom Brady is the GOAT.

If we keep winning SB's, the screaming is just going to get louder. Which means the Chiefs are doing everything RIGHT.

raybec 4 02-08-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16793819)
For sure.

Pretty much everybody but the hardest of die-hard Pats fans think they cheated, even if they're not totally convinced.

What they ARE convinced of is that Tom Brady is the GOAT.

If we keep winning SB's, the screaming is just going to get louder. Which means the Chiefs are doing everything RIGHT.

Exactly, I'll embrace the bad guy role as long as it lasts because it means they're still winning.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793803)
Walter is another one of those who is perpetually wrong yet for whatever reason some people value his opinion.

It's because he had one of the first draft sites on the internet, and they still grind to put a lot of information on there.

It's garbage information, but there's a high volume of it.

You look at their mocks, and it is just lazy and bad. Many posters here could do better all-team mocks than they do.

Their scouting reports are also low quality. They really skew towards names.

The conversation we had earlier about Sneed/McDuffie vs. Slay/Bradberry? Those cats have absolutely no clue how good those dudes are.

It's also consistently hilarious to hear "Eagles OL so much better" constantly when the Chiefs are clearly better at LG and RG, and have cases for equivalency at LT and C.

Another thing that seems to be completely overlooked by national folks is... which team is second in the NFL in sacks again?

We've got OL 1 vs. pass rush 2 one way (Eagles vs. Chiefs) and OL2 vs. pass rush 1 the other way (Chiefs vs. Eagles).

These mother****ers out here acting like the Chiefs are 2020 Bills or something.

Rainbarrel 02-08-2023 02:59 PM

Every team in the playoffs has been humbled. I've not caught the Eagles humble yet

Lzen 02-08-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16793781)
I think he was referring to the reporter that told him that Rihanna said that she thought that he was the best QB ever and then waited for Mahomes to talk about her before saying that he made it all up.

Yeah, that was some stupid crap. Reporters...sometimes...man.

Pablo 02-08-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16793938)
Yeah, that was some stupid crap. Reporters...sometimes...man.

They’re just a bunch of dipshits out there this week. Prolly been talked about in this thread but Siriani got asked if this was a ‘must win’ game

lol nah it’s all good- when we lose this one we just need to win Super Bowl games two and three

Gary Cooper 02-08-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16793938)
Yeah, that was some stupid crap. Reporters...sometimes...man.

The reporter was Brandon Marshall from what I understand.

ptlyon 02-08-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16793940)
They’re just a bunch of dipshits out there this week. Prolly been talked about in this thread but Siriani got asked if this was a ‘must win’ game

ROFL

Chief3188 02-08-2023 03:22 PM

https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...00451675951105

Sounds like we some sickies right now.

Pablo 02-08-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 16793954)
https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...00451675951105

Sounds like we some sickies right now.

I am going to do the logical thing with this information and ****ING PANIC.

Lzen 02-08-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16793943)
The reporter was Brandon Marshall from what I understand.

Well, that makes sense. I former diva WR making it about himself rather than what it should be, which is about Mahomes and his team.

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 16793954)
https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...00451675951105

Sounds like we some sickies right now.

Sudafed is a miracle drug. I know to the minute when my 12 hours is up because I like hell. Pop another Sudafed and feel like a million bucks within 20 minutes.

PHOG 02-08-2023 03:30 PM

I want to see an Andy Reid vs. Sal Palotonimino death match after the Chiefs eviscerate the f'ng Squaukers.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16793962)
Sudafed is a miracle drug. I know to the minute when my 12 hours is up because I like hell. Pop another Sudafed and feel like a million bucks within 20 minutes.

Can they take Sudafed (the stuff that actually works, not the fake phenylephrine stuff)?

I would think pseudoephedrine is a banned substance in the NFL.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16793969)
Can they take Sudafed (the stuff that actually works, not the fake phenylephrine stuff)?

I would think pseudoephedrine is a banned substance in the NFL.


However, the NFL allows the use of pseudoephedrine if a player can document that he was taking it for cold relief, on the recommendation of a team doctor.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-it-a-ped/amp/

IowaHawkeyeChief 02-08-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 16793430)
Could we fly a banner to kick Adam Teicher tf out from covering this team. What a POS.


I would be super nervous if Teicher was picking us to win...

crispystl 02-08-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16792364)
I have it on pretty good authority that it wasn't just the fumbles. Shady did something that really pissed of Reid and basically got himself kicked off the team.

Please elaborate. I've always wondered what the situation was there.

htismaqe 02-08-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 16794001)
Please elaborate. I've always wondered what the situation was there.

Already did. I don't know specifics. I only know that it wasn't JUST the fumbles that got him in Andy's doghouse. There was something more but I'm not privy to that "something".

DJ's left nut 02-08-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16793986)
However, the NFL allows the use of pseudoephedrine if a player can document that he was taking it for cold relief, on the recommendation of a team doctor.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-it-a-ped/amp/

Then we're golden...

Skyy God 02-08-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16793808)
Let them. If KC is hoisting the Lombardi then I won't care what anyone says. Think about it, NE was busted cheating twice during the Bill and Brady era. People have forgotten all about that and the Pats still had 6 SBs during that run.

3x.

Spygate, Deflategate, and Spygate 2.0 that got basically ignored.


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