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digger 04-01-2024 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17465636)
What's with the guns? These younger guys and there duffle bags full of guns. I don't get it


That's not confirmed...

Hammock Parties 04-01-2024 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17465634)
Okay, glad to know he’s definitely a douche. I won’t feed into his bullshit then.

He's not a douche. He just plays the twitter game.

Rainbarrel 04-01-2024 12:11 PM

Traffic interview with bag guy said his chest hurt. If he wasn't driving they must have kicked him out of the car

Smed1065 04-01-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17465636)
What's with the guns? These younger guys and there duffle bags full of guns. I don't get it

Duffel bag. LOL That case might hold 2 of my guns. My duffel bag could fit all.

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17465254)
So you say you’re personally involved with SMU/Chiefs teams but then you dance around like a fuking attorney if Rice was one of the pictured men? Shouldn’t you know?

Either add actual information or get the fuk out of here.

Not dancing around. Using critical thinking which many people have just completely lost the capability to do individually.

Getting caught up on and new “news” regarding this entire ordeal. If I have time tonight I will do a deeper analysis for the group.

frozenchief 04-01-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17465636)
What's with the guns? These younger guys and there duffle bags full of guns. I don't get it

I know. That's just irresponsible.

I mean, all those firearms rattling around in a duffle bag? Might knock a red dot or scope out of alignment or ding or scratch the finish on another firearm. Get a foam-filled pelican case to protect your firearms.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-01-2024 12:16 PM

Been working all day. Did Rashee or his agent/attorney put out a statement?

TLO 04-01-2024 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17465657)
Been working all day. Did Rashee or his agent/attorney put out a statement?

Absolutely nothing has happened.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-01-2024 12:18 PM

Poop sticks.

Skyy God 04-01-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465555)
I was under the impression that a lot of people in the US get convicted on joint enterprise laws when the prosecution can't prove which person out of a group of people committed the offense. Granted, I've generally only heard of joint enterprise convictions for more serious offenses like murder so I don't know if they're more widely used for lesser offenses like wreckless driving.

RICO for street racing?

Lol, no.

In58men 04-01-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17465657)
Been working all day. Did Rashee or his agent/attorney put out a statement?

Nope, all quiet.

Been on Twitter and don’t see anything.

FloridaMan88 04-01-2024 12:18 PM

Angie Ricono frantically trying to find a secret phone call linking Rashee to the crime.

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17465273)
This is how you chose to spend your weekend?

Sadly, yes. On vacation and nice distraction that lead down a rabbit hole.

DaFace 04-01-2024 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465555)
I was under the impression that a lot of people in the US get convicted on joint enterprise laws when the prosecution can't prove which person out of a group of people committed the offense. Granted, I've generally only heard of joint enterprise convictions for more serious offenses like murder so I don't know if they're more widely used for lesser offenses like wreckless driving.

This was definitely not a case of "wreckless" driving - there were plenty of cars wrecked. ;) :Poke:

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17465277)
Who is Donte?

He was the original user I was attempting to answer a question from a post here. Every time I’d hit the reply with quote my phone would circle back to a blank page for some reason. So I wasn’t able to reply to Donte’s Post.

Now that this page seems to be working correctly from my phone, I’ll circle back to Donte’s original post if I have time to search for it tonight. Just have to go through dozens of pages to find the original post I was trying to respond to.

KCJake 04-01-2024 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17465655)
I know. That's just irresponsible.

I mean, all those firearms rattling around in a duffle bag? Might knock a red dot or scope out of alignment or ding or scratch the finish on another firearm. Get a foam-filled pelican case to protect your firearms.

Probably gonna get his buck tag revoked

Marcellus 04-01-2024 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17465655)
I know. That's just irresponsible.

I mean, all those firearms rattling around in a duffle bag? Might knock a red dot or scope out of alignment or ding or scratch the finish on another firearm. Get a foam-filled pelican case to protect your firearms.

Give them a break, they are young they will learn to take better care of their equipment.

Tonka83 04-01-2024 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17465668)
This was definitely not a case of "wreckless" driving - there were plenty of cars wrecked. ;) :Poke:

rectum hell, It damn near killed him....

Rain Man 04-01-2024 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digger (Post 17465642)
That's not confirmed...

Yeah, isn't the only allegation of guns coming from the on-site witnesses who also said the cars were probably stolen?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-01-2024 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)
who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Lease

Womble 04-01-2024 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17465668)
This was definitely not a case of "wreckless" driving - there were plenty of cars wrecked. ;) :Poke:

Shut the wreck up.

Megatron96 04-01-2024 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 17465606)
This thread is full of Columbo level entertainment. I'm no lawyer, but this isn't a true hit and run since he didn't drive off from the scene. They didn't even run away, just casually walked down the highway which I assume got picked up by someone eventually. No one was seriously injured. The other drivers involved have his plates regardless. This seems like a fairly nothing burger other than some traffic tickets and fines for not being around and leaving your vehicle in the road unattended when the cops showed up.

:LOL::LOL::LOL:


Holy shit. Now that’s first-class stupid. Funny as shit though.


“Your Honor, the video shows quite clearly that my client’s gait never rose above a sashay. Clearly this wasn’t a hit-and-run. It was a hit and amble. Case dismissed!”



In a way, because it’s April fools day, I kinda hope Rice’s lawyer is this stupid. Now that would be entertaining.

raybec 4 04-01-2024 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17465643)
He's not a douche. He just plays the twitter game.

That kinda makes him a douche.

OnTheWarpath15 04-01-2024 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17465681)
:LOL::LOL::LOL:


Holy shit. Now that’s first-class stupid. Funny as shit though.


“Your Honor, the video shows quite clearly that my client’s gait never rose above a sashay. Clearly this wasn’t a hit-and-run. It was a hit and amble. Case dismissed!”



In a way, because it’s April fools day, I kinda hope Rice’s lawyer is this stupid. Now that would be entertaining.


https://c.tenor.com/5OuX9SXM6WsAAAAd/tenor.gif

Hammock Parties 04-01-2024 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17465684)
That kinda makes him a douche.

Why? Loads of people on twitter are there to make money. And he's good enough at what he does to get people like Jason Dunn on his podcast.

Stop hatin'

Hammock Parties 04-01-2024 12:33 PM

Crashee Rice would be a fun nickname

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17465205)
DJBILL?

That depends.

Does that give me more or less credibility?

wazu 04-01-2024 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465688)
That depends.

Does that give me more or less credibility?

Probably about equal.

Dante84 04-01-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17465277)
Who is Donte?

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465670)
He was the original user I was attempting to answer a question from a post here. Every time I’d hit the reply with quote my phone would circle back to a blank page for some reason. So I wasn’t able to reply to Donte’s Post.

Now that this page seems to be working correctly from my phone, I’ll circle back to Donte’s original post if I have time to search for it tonight. Just have to go through dozens of pages to find the original post I was trying to respond to.

Yo!

ChiliConCarnage 04-01-2024 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17465659)
Absolutely nothing has happened.

Alright, and back to work.

Dante84 04-01-2024 12:39 PM

For the speculation about "the guns" - there's a guy who was holding a large purse and no one knows what's inside.

This isn't like Frank Clark's Uzi or John Wick. It was a large men's purse.

ThaVirus 04-01-2024 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)
who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Someone beat me to it but Google is showing 2024 MSRP for Corvettes around $70,000-75,000.

Rice got a $1.7m signing bonus after inking his contract and made $750,000 base salary in 2023. He’s due a little over $1,000,000 for the 2024 season with like $2m more in guarantees alone over the two years after that..

Rashee Rice buying a new Vette actually makes more financial sense than some random Joe Blow buying a $23,000 Corolla on a $60k salary.

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17465149)
Potential Crime Categories:

- Racing / Reckless driving - They need to prove RR was driving.
- Fleeing the scene of an accident / Failure to render aid - They need to prove RR was driving.
- DUI - They need to prove he was drunk, they can't, because he left.
- Possession (of anything illegal) - They need to prove what it was, that he had it, that it was his. They can't, because he left.

Anything else we're missing here?

Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

mr. tegu 04-01-2024 12:43 PM

I think most assumptions about the bag having something illegal are centered around it being an explanation for why they left, and why bag guy specifically seemed to leave ahead of the rest. There is nothing at all, no visual reports, as to what exactly is in there.

Kman34 04-01-2024 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

Shut the **** up..

Dante84 04-01-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

don't go changing up now

ThrobProng 04-01-2024 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

Show bobs and vegana?

myselff77 04-01-2024 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17465695)
For the speculation about "the guns" - there's a guy who was holding a large purse and no one knows what's inside.

This isn't like Frank Clark's Uzi or John Wick. It was a large men's purse.

Agreed. I assume even a half competent lawyer can use this fact to their advantage. The men did not flee the scene of the accident. After some crazy Karen started spouting off about guns, they did not feel safe at the scene and left for their own safety before anything escalated.

VivaLasVegas 04-01-2024 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17465707)
don't go changing up now

Not changing anything up

Clearly, I need to be using this site from my computer and not my phone’s browser.

I blame any change on my phone. Definitely not user error [pre-clarifying.. that is sarcasm]

Kman34 04-01-2024 12:51 PM

https://y.yarn.co/2c3ba343-4a17-4227...7539d_text.gif

Katipan 04-01-2024 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465710)
Not changing anything up

Clearly, I need to be using this site from my computer and not my phone’s browser.

I blame any change on my phone. Definitely not user error [pre-clarifying.. that is sarcasm]

I have road rage just reading your posts.

Icon 04-01-2024 12:58 PM

I don't believe anything I've read so far. I've learned to wait until Brooke Pryor reports. She's the bestest.

New World Order 04-01-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

Hootie?

Katipan 04-01-2024 01:01 PM

Oh dear God that babble is only one person.

BWillie 04-01-2024 01:05 PM

There is no reason for Rice to say anything unless he's threatened with arrest.

cmh6476 04-01-2024 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17465698)
Someone beat me to it but Google is showing 2024 MSRP for Corvettes around $70,000-75,000.

Rice got a $1.7m signing bonus after inking his contract and made $750,000 base salary in 2023. He’s due a little over $1,000,000 for the 2024 season with like $2m more in guarantees alone over the two years after that..

Rashee Rice buying a new Vette actually makes more financial sense than some random Joe Blow buying a $23,000 Corolla on a $60k salary.

yeah but he keeps this behavior up, he's going to have a hard time finding a $60k gig once his playing days are over ;)

Balto 04-01-2024 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465653)
Not dancing around. Using critical thinking which many people have just completely lost the capability to do individually.

Getting caught up on and new “news” regarding this entire ordeal. If I have time tonight I will do a deeper analysis for the group.

Why did you not answer my question at all?

You state you are personally involved with BOTH the SMU and Chiefs team? Yet you can't tell or haven't been told by your connections if Rice was there and if so which one he is?

I think it's great if a person is new to CP and wants to help out with new information but thats not what your doing. You state you are personally in with SMU/Chiefs but then go on to write a book sounding like a attorney talking to a jury on Rice being preset and no proof.

You would have gotten a much better response and welcome if you simply wrote that your personally connected with SMU/Chiefs and this is what you have heard.

Katipan 04-01-2024 01:11 PM

Denver media is rolling their bean over this.

The big tagline is that Dallas PD are asking for the publics assistance in identifying the 5 guys who "fled."

Hoover 04-01-2024 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465731)
yeah but he keeps this behavior up, he's going to have a hard time finding a $60k gig once his playing days are over ;)

Calm down Francis.

Hopefully he learns from this, and realizes that he has a lot to lose and who you hang out with matters. Frankly, I'm surprised there isn't more of this shit going on. Kids with money to burn is always going to lead to some bad situations.

Shiver Me Timbers 04-01-2024 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17465740)
Why did you not answer my question at all?

You state you are personally involved with BOTH the SMU and Chiefs team? Yet you can't tell or haven't been told by your connections if Rice was there and if so which one he is?

I think it's great if a person is new to CP and wants to help out with new information but thats not what your doing. You state you are personally in with SMU/Chiefs but then go on to write a book sounding like a attorney talking to a jury on Rice being preset and no proof.

You would have gotten a much better response and welcome if you simply wrote that your personally connected with SMU/Chiefs and this is what you have heard.

He could be Clark Hunt. His Dallas home is close to the SMU campus.

ThrobProng 04-01-2024 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17465740)
You state you are personally in with SMU/Chiefs but then go on to write a book sounding like a attorney talking to a jury on Rice being preset and no proof an Indian schizophrenic on a 5-day coke bender.

FYP

Shiver Me Timbers 04-01-2024 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17465745)
Denver media is rolling their bean over this.

The big tagline is that Dallas PD are asking for the publics assistance in identifying the 5 guys who "fled."

Can't wait to hear Dave, Alfy, and Ryan go off on this. Might have to wait since the Crockies are playing.

carcosa 04-01-2024 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

Interesting!

Womble 04-01-2024 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465699)
Copying and pasting from previous post now that my web browser seems to be working[/B]

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Only 90% of post was copied, but it gets the response to Dante

The text argues that Rice was one of the five men involved in a car accident, and that there is almost 100% consensus that he was not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car. The dash cam footage does not show Rice's car engaged in reckless driving, but it does show Rice reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The men from the lambo and corvette knew each other, and it is a fact that there were five men in total between the two vehicles. Rice is not one of the five men, and speculation about alcohol, drugs, and guns is also present. The text concludes that Rice is one of the five men involved in the car accident, and that the speculation surrounding alcohol, drugs, and guns is all speculation. Rice can afford to buy his own car, and the text concludes that Rice is one of the five men involved.

Ming the Merciless 04-01-2024 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17465544)
Yes, you can absolutely draw the inferences to convict and doing essentially exactly what you've laid out. -- "Hey, the video shows he was the second guy out of the passenger side - you think they swapped seats at impact?" -- but prosecutors are loathe to spin that wheel because jurors are stupid and obstinate.


wrong


the reason you don't do that is simple:


OBJECTION - Speculation


sustained


Juries tend to get things right more than wrong, so I dont know if theyre any more dumb than any other sample.. i bet theyre not.

FloridaMan88 04-01-2024 01:36 PM

Hopefully this doesn’t interfere with his upcoming workouts with Mahomes in Texas.

Priorities… the focus is singularly on the threepeat.

kstater 04-01-2024 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17465701)
I think most assumptions about the bag having something illegal are centered around it being an explanation for why they left, and why bag guy specifically seemed to leave ahead of the rest. There is nothing at all, no visual reports, as to what exactly is in there.

From the same witness that said the cars were likely stolen, probably because the scary black men left the scene.

I'm not saying those that left the scene were smart, but the bias of the witness kind of impeaches their credibility.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk

DJ's left nut 04-01-2024 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17465778)
wrong


the reason you don't do that is simple:


OBJECTION - Speculation


sustained


Juries tend to get things right more than wrong, so I dont know if theyre any more dumb than any other sample.. i bet theyre not.

Well there's nobody to ask the question to - at least not in that context.

You show the video, you question the respective witnesses, you hem them into their positions and then you close the loop in your closing argument.

Oh you can go ahead and lob a skunk into the jury box to plant a seed at some point. Probably when you're questioning the 'driver', and you know full well that you're gonna eat the objection - but that was never the point. And frankly it's not strictly necessary (so you feel out the judge and/or weigh how many points you've earned with him prior to asking a 'question' everyone in the building knows is going to draw an objection).

The point is to get the respective positions in as testimony so you can speak to them in close. And then in close you point out the absurdity of the position. You're most assuredly allowed to be incredulous in a closing argument and that's going to be the last thing the jury hears. Well...apart from the feeble efforts of defense counsel to reiterate what 'reasonable doubt' means after you've told the jury that 'reasonable' doesn't mean you absolutely have to believe their story that the real driver actually climbed over the passenger after the wreck so that he could get out first...

Closing the loop in close is pretty much the way you finish off an inference or really any kind of circumstantial argument. You draw the dots in your case in chief; you connect them in the closing argument.

DJ's left nut 04-01-2024 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17465778)
wrong


the reason you don't do that is simple:


OBJECTION - Speculation


sustained


Juries tend to get things right more than wrong, so I dont know if theyre any more dumb than any other sample.. i bet theyre not.

Oh - and yes, juries tend to get things right. But it's largely because prosecutors won't pursue anything that they don't think is damn near iron-clad.

If it gets to a jury, it's typically broken down to the point that it can be spoon fed to them. If it can't be; if it's a job that requires much critical thinking - juries largely aren't up for the job.

They usually get asked "What's 2+2?" and when that's the case, they'll usually work it out. Ask them "What's 2+2(3-1)?" and they're lucky to get that one right half the time.

wazu 04-01-2024 02:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from Rashee Rice’s attorney, Royce West: <a href="https://t.co/l4c2cIArWL">pic.twitter.com/l4c2cIArWL</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1774893197254168678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 04-01-2024 02:16 PM

Feels really good having everything cleared up now. Especially glad to know where I can send my requests for comment.

In58men 04-01-2024 02:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from Rashee Rice’s attorney, Royce West: <a href="https://t.co/l4c2cIArWL">pic.twitter.com/l4c2cIArWL</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1774893197254168678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 04-01-2024 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17465869)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from Rashee Rice’s attorney, Royce West: <a href="https://t.co/l4c2cIArWL">pic.twitter.com/l4c2cIArWL</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1774893197254168678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's a member of the Texas Senate.

smithandrew051 04-01-2024 02:19 PM

Looks like his attorney is also a state senator

smithandrew051 04-01-2024 02:20 PM

Barely beat me to it

Tribal Warfare 04-01-2024 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17465873)
He's a member of the Texas Senate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17465875)
Looks like his attorney is also a state senator


Clark hooking him up to fix his shit

DRM08 04-01-2024 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17465873)
He's a member of the Texas Senate.

At one time he was President pro tempore of the Texas Senate, which is 3rd in line for the Governor’s seat. Royce West seems like a pretty powerful guy to help clean up the mess.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royce_West

Monticore 04-01-2024 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17465870)
Feels really good having everything cleared up now. Especially glad to know where I can send my requests for comment.

Have you requested anything on behalf of chiefsplanet.com yet.

comochiefsfan 04-01-2024 02:24 PM

Nothing is going to happen here.

NFL news cycle will move on in a day or two and everyone will forget about this while the investigation is ongoing.

An announcement will come down in a few months that “he good” and he’ll be on the field week 1.

Then we Threepeat.

wazu 04-01-2024 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17465885)
Have you requested anything on behalf of chiefsplanet.com yet.

No but now that we know the attorney's name you can post them here and I will send him a Facebook message.

raybec 4 04-01-2024 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17465887)
Nothing is going to happen here.

NFL news cycle will move on in a day or two and everyone will forget about this while the investigation is ongoing.

An announcement will come down in a few months that “he good” and he’ll be on the field week 1.

Then we Threepeat.

I wonder how the Chiefs will survuve without all of the fans that are leaving forever if that's what happens.

Katipan 04-01-2024 02:25 PM

Will Rashee stay healthy?

comochiefsfan 04-01-2024 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17465891)
I wonder how the Chiefs will survuve without all of the fans that are leaving forever if that's what happens.

Maybe this time Florio will finally keep his promise to quit covering the NFL.

BleedingRed 04-01-2024 02:28 PM

Smart kid, goofed and probably called Chiefs PR right away. They told him to shut the **** up and lawyer up.

We good

Rainbarrel 04-01-2024 02:29 PM

A distraction while Mahomes works with all probable 1st and 2nd round 2024 NFL Draft WRs. Bills/Bengals/Ravens QBs tour Hollywood for starlets

wazu 04-01-2024 02:30 PM

Are you guys as relieved as I am that Rashee will "take all necessary steps to address this situation responsibly?" That is so HIM!

DRM08 04-01-2024 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17465887)
Nothing is going to happen here.

NFL news cycle will move on in a day or two and everyone will forget about this while the investigation is ongoing.

An announcement will come down in a few months that “he good” and he’ll be on the field week 1.

Then we Threepeat.

But the team still needs to place strong emphasis on the WR position in the Draft and whatever free agent scraps are left (Hardman or MVS?). They already needed to focus on WR for the Draft even before this mess with Rashee.

scho63 04-01-2024 02:31 PM

The Hunt family has a lot of connections there.

Behind the scenes power moves.

comochiefsfan 04-01-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17465907)
The Hunt family has a lot of connections there.

Behind the scenes power moves.

Yeah, if you’re going to do this, do it in a place where the owner lives and knows most of the powerful people in the area.

Clark will get this swept under the rug fairly easily.

FloridaMan88 04-01-2024 02:34 PM

In a week this story goes away.

Rashee will be fine and fully available to play this season.

If the NFL takes any disciplinary action over this non-issue while letting Von Miller play in a playoff game after almost killing his pregnant girlfriend… it would be beyond ridiculous.


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