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duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17365193)
That was the same for the Bills... they had 10 more takeaways than the Chiefs and 7 of them were in two games, picking off Sam Howell 4 times and Zappe 3 times.

Ravens sacked Stroud 5 times in his first career game (didn't record a sack last week) and Minshew 5 times... and then you look at other games and they sacked Burrow once in the first game, Stafford twice, Lawrence once.

It's easy to skew numbers in this league given how many teams are pretty terrible and given how bad the worst of the worst can be.

Which is a great reason why things like DVOA are INTERESTING and DIRECTIVE but not EVIDENTIAL.

The sample size is just so small, that a simple thing like blowing out a collapsing Miami Dolphins team with a vulnerable QB down key pieces of his supporting cast can drastically skew things.

Monticore 01-27-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365251)
Which is a great reason why things like DVOA are INTERESTING and DIRECTIVE but not EVIDENTIAL.

The sample size is just so small, that a simple thing like blowing out a collapsing Miami Dolphins team with a vulnerable QB down key pieces of his supporting cast can drastically skew things.

I assume defensive touchdowns still count against the def and offensive turnovers inside our own redzone that still end up in field goals even after a stop can skew how good this d was .

wachashi 01-27-2024 09:35 AM

Turnovers are a very noisy stat. A lot of luck involved in fumble recoveries, tipped passes, right place right time INTs. I don’t take the turnover differential between the Ravens defense and the Chiefs defense to mean very much at all.

wachashi 01-27-2024 09:38 AM

Our think our offensive can out-pass-protect this defensive line if we’re looking at talent on talent. The question will be how we communicate and deal with the simulated pressures. I don’t see our guys losing many one on one pass protection battles with their defensive line. I think Mahomes will have time to throw more often than not.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365177)
Yall keep saying the Ravens played trash QBs. They've played 11 ten win teams and half the playoff field surely those QBs couldn't be trash.

I've LOOKED AT THE QBs....pure ****ing garbage schedule you played at avoiding ELITE QBs...and yes the QB you face has a HUGE swing on your precious DVOA. You aren't facing Purty this week on a loaded team. You have a loaded team with the GOAT QB ROFL

jerryaldini 01-27-2024 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17365159)
I do love that show. Wilds seals the deal by being the whitest white guy that's ever white-ed. He looks like a 1920's stock broker. His occasional hip hop missive is so ill fitting and unnatural you can't help but smile, at a minimum..

Yes! He's one of those 1920s-1950s cartoon images of clean cut white man. Or modern day Mormon.

This week "it's the the show that has recently been heralded as not bad on Twitter". LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 09:42 AM

Gardener Minshew DeShawn Watson Pad Statford and Kenny Pickett STILL did the job. (Counting the Rams gane as a loss because it was a huge fluke you won btw)

RedinTexas 01-27-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17365279)
Turnovers are a very noisy stat. A lot of luck involved in fumble recoveries, tipped passes, right place right time INTs. I don’t take the turnover differential between the Ravens defense and the Chiefs defense to mean very much at all.

Good point, but it doesn't mean the stat should be ignored. It just needs to be taken with a lot of salt. It could be meaningful, but there are reasons to discount it. It's not nearly as good as a lot of other statistics for predictive purposes.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 09:42 AM

Also regular season doesn't really count for the Chiefs because they're PROVEN in the playoffs

RavensMania 01-27-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17365288)
I've LOOKED AT THE QBs....pure ****ing garbage schedule you played at avoiding ELITE QBs...and yes the QB you face has a HUGE swing on your precious DVOA. You aren't facing Purty this week on a loaded team. You have a loaded team with the GOAT QB ROFL

keep coming up with excuses, because you are going to need more of them tomorrow.

The Ravens set a record for beating 10 win teams this season.

Bearcat 01-27-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17365314)

The Ravens set a record for beating 10 win teams this season.

It's probably a stat that didn't exist before this year because nobody has ever bragged about it so much before, especially in a 17 game season where many of those teams are probably masquerading as 9-7 teams.

To put it another way... none of those teams were bragging about their 10 win season and you wouldn't be bragging if the Ravens had a 10 win season.... yet this is clearly super important to you.

It's just not impressive at all, but keep telling yourself it is I guess.

Rausch 01-27-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17365314)
keep coming up with excuses, because you are going to need more of them tomorrow.

The Ravens set a record for beating 10 win teams this season.

This is what I'm talking about: the Raven's great achievement is beating a bunch of unaccomplished teams in the regular season.

Looks good but what does it mean?

It means you're next...

ChiTown 01-27-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17365314)
keep coming up with excuses, because you are going to need more of them tomorrow.

The Ravens set a record for beating 10 win teams this season.

My brother in Christ, nobody cares. FFS, you should absolutely win this game by 10+. You got the MVP, the greatest D the NFL has ever seen and a game at home. There’s absolutely no way you should lose this game. That would be an absolute complete failure for the Ravens, right? It’s in the bag…

Bearcat 01-27-2024 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17365326)
My brother in Christ, nobody cares. FFS, you should absolutely win this game by 10+. You got the MVP, the greatest D the NFL has ever seen and a game at home. There’s absolutely no way you should lose this game. That would be an absolute complete failure for the Ravens, right? It’s in the bag…

Hey, but the Browns, Texans, and Steelers won 10 games and looked at what they did in the playoffs... how could you not be impressed by beating teams like that in the regular season.

ChiTown 01-27-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17365330)
Hey, but the Browns, Texans, and Steelers won 10 games and looked at what they did in the playoffs... how could you not be impressed by beating teams like that in the regular season.

It’s jaw dropping, regular season greatness - like nothing I’ve ever seen before!


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