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How many of those 11 teams had Pro bowl QB's?

How many of those had b/u QB's?

How many turnovers did those sloppy QB's gift you?

And it really doesn't matter in the end because this week you're playing a HOF QB led by a HOF HC against the best throwing HB in the NFL.

BroTyler Huntley is a ProBowl QB.

Rausch

01-27-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365489)

BroTyler Huntley is a ProBowl QB.

Was that your best effort?...

rfaulk34

01-27-2024 11:56 AM

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RunKC

01-27-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17365447)

Sky moore will absolutely be on the roster next year though

He's gonna be competing against guys like Remigio to make the roster in camp.

I think MVS, Toney and Hardman are all out after this season. You're gonna see 3 or so new WR's next year.

Rausch

01-27-2024 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17365514)

He's gonna be competing against guys like Remigio to make the roster in camp.

I think MVS, Toney and Hardman are all out after this season. You're gonna see 3 or so new WR's next year.

Hardman should be able to be resigned extremely cheap for a 1 or 2 year deal and cut at low impact later if necessary.

No reason to return Toney or MVasS's calls...

StalkRavenMad

01-27-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17365193)

That was the same for the Bills... they had 10 more takeaways than the Chiefs and 7 of them were in two games, picking off Sam Howell 4 times and Zappe 3 times.

Ravens sacked Stroud 5 times in his first career game (didn't record a sack last week) and Minshew 5 times... and then you look at other games and they sacked Burrow once in the first game, Stafford twice, Lawrence once.

It's easy to skew numbers in this league given how many teams are pretty terrible and given how bad the worst of the worst can be.

It's pretty hard to Skew Sacks, Takeaways, and lowest points allowed in the same season. Underestimate this defense if you'd like.

duncan_idaho

01-27-2024 12:04 PM

Toney is literally zero savings to dump. I think they’ll keep him and see what they’ve got. See if he can stay healthy and carve out a role against some competition.

Leash is going to be short, for sure.

Rausch

01-27-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365525)

It's pretty hard to Skew Sacks, Takeaways, and lowest points allowed in the same season. Underestimate this defense if you'd like.

Your lowest points allowed stat is 0.5 ppg lower than KC. It's essentially the same.

Actually KC's number is more impressive when you consider they didn't have 290 turnovers to end drives...

StalkRavenMad

01-27-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365251)

Which is a great reason why things like DVOA are INTERESTING and DIRECTIVE but not EVIDENTIAL.

The sample size is just so small, that a simple thing like blowing out a collapsing Miami Dolphins team with a vulnerable QB down key pieces of his supporting cast can drastically skew things.

Yet you guys been beaten your chest because you beat 2 teams in that exact boat. Do you see the hypocrisy in that?

Rausch

01-27-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365526)

For the price him just being a really good Punt/Kick returner is worth it.

If he can stay healthy...

Tribal Warfare

01-27-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365526)

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17365462)

If it's a mental thing, he could be gone.

Remember the whispers that he struggling to learn the playbook and it was limiting his snap count earlier in the season?

If he has a mental block from getting on the field right now, at some point the amount of draft capital we invested on him isn't going to matter when we'd be literally better off having Skyy put up a 0/0. At some point, just declare victory on the trade for having Toney land us Super Bowl 57 and wish him the best on a mental reset on another team.

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17098951)

I'm not worried about Patrick whatsoever, but I'm troubled if Toney can overcome this because it's unknown if he can.

****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread****

Yep

StalkRavenMad

01-27-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17365288)

I've LOOKED AT THE QBs....pure ****ing garbage schedule you played at avoiding ELITE QBs...and yes the QB you face has a HUGE swing on your precious DVOA. You aren't facing Purty this week on a loaded team. You have a loaded team with the GOAT QB ROFL

I'll maintain that it's hard for trash QBs to get to10 wins. I agree there aren't many Mahomes but you don't have to down every other QB in the league to prop up Mahomes he's plenty good on his own.

ForeverIowan

01-27-2024 12:18 PM

Id imagine Reid sits down and has a long talk with Toney this offseason. Last season of his rookie deal coming up. Do you want to dedicate your life to football and have a breakout season and sign a second contract elsewhere for life changing money or do you want to continue on the same path and likely be out of the league in a couple of years? Now or never time for him.

StalkRavenMad

01-27-2024 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17365291)

Gardener Minshew DeShawn Watson Pad Statford and Kenny Pickett STILL did the job. (Counting the Rams gane as a loss because it was a huge fluke you won btw)

Only plant Chief would count a loss as a win.

RavensMania

01-27-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365352)

And of those 10-win teams, how many actually were real contenders?

A rookie QB of a team that picked 2nd overall the year before in his first nfl game.

A fraudulent “great” defense Cleveland Browns team, on road, QBed by Dorian Thompson-Robinson.

Detroit at home. Great win. Some team that is drastically different outside the dome? Picks up a lot more steam if the Lions win tomorrow.

Rams at home. Good win. Lucky to get it, honestly.

@ 49ers definitely the best win. Exposed mediocre game manager QB.

btw, you lost to the Lions and were playing at home. come on, you're complaining about who we played......go look in the mirror buddy.
Miami at home. Frauds.

Not all 10-win teams are created equal.

At the time.....Lions, Niners, Dolphins, Browns have a very good defense, Rams, at the time the Jags and Texans twice

We played a lot harder schedule than the Chiefs played this season regardless and you say all 10 win teams aren't built the same, that is true.

btw, you lost to the Lions and were playing at home. We destroyed them and played them at home. Does that mean we are better than you, no it doesn't, but it certainly doesn't support your argument. You really should look at your schedule before you start knocking ours.

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