Laz is behind a page or two.

6'0 (actually closer to 6' 1/2") not 5'10"

So it isn't about winning then? What is it about? you guys could be 4-12, as long as alex threw for 4000 yards? I don't get the logic.
The saints are up against the Cap. That is why they had to let Chase go. He got THREE MIL A YEAR, and they just gave Drew Brees, 50 mil guaranteed. This is such a non issue.

August, 6, 2013
Aug 6

5:34

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By Jeff Legwold | ESPN.com


The Broncos turned back the clock some Monday for guard Zane Beadles.

Beadles, who was a three-year starter at Utah as a left tackle, was moved to left tackle Tuesday morning practice as the team continues to try to work around a slew of injuries in the offensive line.

The Broncos continued to kick the tires on different combinations up front in the wake of Orlando Franklin's hip injury.



[+] EnlargeZane Beadles
AP Photo/David ZalubowskiThe Broncos moved Zane Beadles back to his college position, left tackle, on Tuesday.
Franklin suffered the injury Monday and is now day to day. He did not participate Tuesday and will not play in Thursday night's preseason opener in San Francisco.

Tuesday, with Beadles at left tackle, Ryan Lilja moved into Beadles' left guard spot, Louis Vasquez was at right guard and Chris Clark, who had been playing at left tackle in place of Ryan Clady, was moved into Franklin's right tackle spot.

After Franklin left Monday's practice, the Broncos had tried Vasquez at right tackle with Lilja at right guard.

"We're looking at things," said Broncos coach John Fox. " ... that's what this is for."

And the Broncos have been looking almost throughout training camp thus far. Clady (shoulder) and Chris Kuper (ankle) are still coming back from offseason surgeries, center J.D. Walton (ankle) is on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list and center Dan Koppen suffered a season-ending knee injury last week.

"Well, certainly you think about it because you've got good offensive players, so if they're injured and not in there, then it does make an impact on your team," said quarterback Peyton Manning. "But that's why you have depth. That's why you have guys ready to play at any given moment."

Most scouts believed Beadles, at 6-foot-4 and 305 pounds, did not have the frame to play at left tackle in the NFL when he entered the league and that he would struggle to hold the edge against the league's top pass-rushers. After a six-game stint at right tackle as a rookie in 2010, Beadles was moved to guard where he has played since.

Beadles was an injury replacement at guard in the Pro Bowl this past season.

It all means the Broncos may have to break out a little more two-tight-end or two-back looks until things get settled down up front. If they open the formation too much because they can't block effectively with just five players, it will invite punishment on their quarterback.

They may also need to pick up the pace, shorten some pass routes and get the ball out quickly.

The Broncos do still expect Clady to be ready for the regular-season opener if he continues to rehab at his current pace.


•Rookie defensive tackle Sylvester Williams, who was the Broncos' first-round pick this past April, said he's treating the preseason opener "like it's a regular game for me.''

"I want to show the coaches something,'' Williams said. "They brought me here and I want to show they made the right choice.''

Williams said a pre-draft visit with Hall of Famer Warren Sapp gave him an early read on what his first training camp and first season would be like.

"Just working with him a little bit was great," Williams said. "The biggest thing he said was quick feet, don't waste steps, get up the field, that's what I'm looking to do."

Williams should make his first appearance Thursday night in passing situations. He missed several days of camp with a knee injury, but has practiced this week.



•After participating on a limited basis Monday, tight end Jacob Tamme (thigh) was held out of Tuesday's practice. With tight end Joel Dreessen having arhtroscopic surgery on his left knee Monday, Julius Thomas and Virgil Green worked with the starters and the two will get plenty of work with the regulars against the 49ers.

With Dreessen expected to miss the preseason, the Broncos also signed tight end Deangelo Peterson Tuesday and he joined practice after passing his physical.

Peterson was originally signed by the Rams as an undrafted rookie last year and spent some of the 2012 season on the Redskins' practice squad. Peterson, who had suffered a fractured foot in the Redskins' offseason workouts earlier this year, started his career at LSU as a wide receiver and eventually played 50 games at the school.

He had just 39 career catches at LSU.



•Cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie did his most extensive work with the team's strength and conditioning staff Tuesday since suffering an ankle sprain last week.

Rodgers-Cromartie did some light drills off to the side during practice, but he's still a question mark to play much in the preseason.



•Broncos safety Rahim Moore on the crowds for training camp practices: "I'm quite sure somebody is probably missing work, or calling in late, calling in sick."





Bray to get chance before Stanzi

August, 6, 2013
Aug 6

1:20

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By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com


The Tyler Bray-Ricky Stanzi battle to be the No. 3 quarterback in Kansas City is far from over.

The final determination will be made based on performance in the four preseason games. However, we clearly have an early favorite: the rookie Bray.

The Kansas City Star reported that Bray will play before Stanzi late in Friday’s preseason opener in New Orleans. Bray will play in the third quarter and Stanzi will work the final quarter.

It is significant because it means the Kansas City brass thinks Bray, an erratic, but strong-armed undrafted free agent from Tennessee, has done enough to play ahead of Stanzi, a third-year player with little experience.

There were early reports that new Kansas City coach Andy Reid was higher on Stanzi because he grasped Reid’s system so well. However, I think Bray will win this job barring a complete meltdown in the preseason because of this: He has the potential to start someday. Stanzi likely does not. Thus, there is little chance Bray will be exposed for other teams if the Chiefs like him coming out of camp.
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I thought it was pertinent.

Keep trollin trollin trollin

He will be the only QB left standing in 2 years out of this shitpile crop of QBs on the roster.

Alex is a placeholder

Your perspective thinks Geno is better than Cam.

Fail.

Remains to be seen.

Skull**** their makeshift line and then snap Peyton's twig neck

The NY Jets are your Super Bowl favorite.

Clady and Franklin will be good to go before the third preseason game.

He has never sucked "in the NFL" so he wouldn't continue to suck. He didnt suck as a Saint, at least there is no eveidence to support that theory. His preseason line is better than any Chief QB in 10 years so Im still lost on how he "sucks in the NFL".

Have you been at camp Clay? Have you witnessed the Daniels struggles or are you just bemoaning a signing you didnt like?

We all know which one it is.

I didn't like the signing, and see no reason to change my tune based on the shitty camp reports.

I haven't been myself, but the camp reports I've listened (primarily) to say that Daniel has been up and down and the least impressive of the 3, although all 3 of them have purportedly been playing better this week. Which is I think to be expected.

(I still wouldn't move Bray out of the #3 spot regardless)

RAWHIIIDE!