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Shields68 01-10-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17901097)
Many teams have between a Mike Pennel to a DJ Reeder, though. You don't have to be Chris Jones to be a player that can make things difficult for an offense in both the run and pass game.

It's like some of you have literally no idea what you are watching.

Thuney is not an NFL LT. Caliendo is not a starting level OG. This isn't really an arguable point.

I think the question is whether DJ has the lateral movement to not whiff.

xztop123 01-10-2025 05:34 PM

Chris jones is not as good vs the run as mike pennell.

You guys look at players as better vs worse too often and it’s too black and white.

Different players have different skill sets.

Chris jones is maybe the second best pass rushing dt of all time to Warren sapp.

Chris Meck 01-10-2025 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17901104)
I think the question is whether DJ has the lateral movement to not whiff.

I think the question is whether Chiefsplanet posters trust Andy Reid to make that judgement or not.

You would think three Super Bowl wins in 5 seasons might earn him that respect, but I guess not.

As I said like 9 pages ago, if Humphries is anywhere near healthy, this is not a difficult decision. If it's Thuney, it's because Humphries is not able to go.

Chris Meck 01-10-2025 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17901116)
Chris jones is not as good vs the run as mike pennell.

You guys look at players as better vs worse too often and it’s too black and white.

Different players have different skill sets.

Chris jones is maybe the second best pass rushing dt of all time to Warren sapp.

If you're arguing with ME, you've missed my point.

You don't have to be an All-Pro DT to be disruptive was my point.

dlphg9 01-10-2025 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17901116)
Chris jones is not as good vs the run as mike pennell.

You guys look at players as better vs worse too often and it’s too black and white.

Different players have different skill sets.

Chris jones is maybe the second best pass rushing dt of all time to Warren sapp.

Aaron Donald is the best pass rushing DT of all time and it's not even close. I'd probably take Jones over Sapp, but I'm extremely biased.

Chris Meck 01-10-2025 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17901122)
Aaron Donald is the best pass rushing DT of all time and it's not even close. I'd probably take Jones over Sapp, but I'm extremely biased.

Well, certainly of the modern era, anyway. We're not qualified to judge the decades before they even had sacks as a stat.

But then again, Reggie White?

I don't know.

TheGuardian 01-10-2025 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17901122)
Aaron Donald is the best pass rushing DT of all time and it's not even close. I'd probably take Jones over Sapp, but I'm extremely biased.

Yeah that's not true either. Aaron Donald is maybe the best overall DT, but even that is arguable.

The best pass rushing defensive tackle of all time is Jon Randle. From a defensive tackle pass rushing standpoint alone, Donald can't carry his jock.

Chris Meck 01-10-2025 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17901131)
Yeah that's not true either. Aaron Donald is maybe the best overall DT, but even that is arguable.

The best pass rushing defensive tackle of all time is Jon Randle. From a defensive tackle pass rushing standpoint alone, Donald can't carry his jock.

Ooh, that's another good pick.

TheGuardian 01-10-2025 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17901133)
Ooh, that's another good pick.

Was terrible against the run, but my God, couldn't pass block him to save your life. Would split every double team and his initial burst was not stoppable.

Chris Meck 01-10-2025 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17901144)
Was terrible against the run, but my God, couldn't pass block him to save your life. Would split every double team and his initial burst was not stoppable.

He was great.

But peak Reggie White was probably the most dominant defender of his era, no?

TheGuardian 01-10-2025 06:05 PM

Bringing this back full circle, I'm literally on the "I'm just gonna trust Andy" bench.

If we start DJ it means Andy feels like he gives us the best chance.

If we start Joe, it means that Andy didn't see enough in these two weeks to make him feel like he could start DJ.

That said, the more I thought about this the more I did think that the BEST case is just "ok" play from Humphrey at LT, and then all pro play at LG.

So ya'll can't say I'm dogmatic.

But we can't even have sub par play out of Humprhies. It doesn't have to be pro bowl, but it can't be the shit we've dealt with all year and he can't have 3-4 plays like he had against denver.

TheGuardian 01-10-2025 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17901145)
He was great.

But peak Reggie White was probably the most dominant defender of his era, no?

Oh true. But Reggie slid in and out of end and tackle. Where Randle was a true d-tackle only.

Kramerica 01-10-2025 06:34 PM

If Mahomes trusts DJ enough to keep his eyes downfield and get the ball out then DJ will be the starting LT. I think that's the biggest key. I feel like he was more comfortable with Thuney in that spot than he has been all season. Not saying I want Thuney there, I'd rather have him at his all-pro position, but Mahomes seemed to play his best the last couple games.

BWillie 01-10-2025 06:40 PM

Obviously the best case scenario involves Humphries.

I don't care.

We arent a 7 seed. We are the best team in football. Limiting our floor gets us to the Super Bowl.

It's certainly possible Humphries is the better choice, but I know, KNOW, Thuney at LT is easily good enough to win a Super Bowl.

htismaqe 01-10-2025 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17901187)
Obviously the best case scenario involves Humphries.

I don't care.

We arent a 7 seed. We are the best team in football. Limiting our floor gets us to the Super Bowl.

It's certainly possible Humphries is the better choice, but I know, KNOW, Thuney at LT is easily good enough to win a Super Bowl.

Having DJ on the field at the same time only makes the whole process easier. We've been through enough this season. It's time to destroy souls and crush hearts.


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