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kccrow 02-14-2019 02:04 AM

I'd rather keep Houston than Ford, especially in this scheme. He's just a far better all-around DE and actually has the size and strength to hold up in it. You pretty much have to play Ford in a wide 9 IMO if you keep him around. I don't know if he could be very effective sliding in much.

kc rush 02-14-2019 02:46 AM

I'd prefer to keep him on a restructured deal, but would cut him for cap relief if he is unwilling to do that. This is magnified if we can't post June 1 Berry due to injury contract rules.

New World Order 02-14-2019 02:58 AM

I'd rather have an elite safety and a solid pass rusher than Justin Houston

Coogs 02-14-2019 06:17 AM

I let him walk. Berry too on a post June, 1st designation. And I tag Ford with the tag that allows him to talk to other teams.

Red Dawg 02-14-2019 06:29 AM

Pay cut or dump him. Same for Berry after June 1.

Grim 02-14-2019 07:09 AM

Keep him.

Iconic 02-14-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14105730)
I'd rather keep Houston than Ford, especially in this scheme. He's just a far better all-around DE and actually has the size and strength to hold up in it. You pretty much have to play Ford in a wide 9 IMO if you keep him around. I don't know if he could be very effective sliding in much.

+1. Unless it follows a trade I don't get why we want to tag Ford so badly. I'd rather keep the 15m and use it elsewhere with Houston on the books.

TambaBerry 02-14-2019 07:34 AM

so cutting houston and then cutting eric berry post june 1st gives us almost 50 million cap room

MahiMike 02-14-2019 08:32 AM

Keep Chris Jones. Rest of the defense can go to the AAF.

Reerun_KC 02-14-2019 08:38 AM

Bye Felicia.

Time to get younger and faster st the position... his bloated contract isn’t worth his production.

Hydrae 02-14-2019 08:38 AM

I would leave it up to the new coaching staff on that side of the ball. I think you keep Houston, let Ford walk. I would love a tag and trade but fear that won't go as well as we would hope. But at this point we don't know how the scheme change will impact everyone and Houston has enough skills still to adjust well.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14105793)
+1. Unless it follows a trade I don't get why we want to tag Ford so badly. I'd rather keep the 15m and use it elsewhere with Houston on the books.

Ford absolutely has trade value. Either way he is getting tagged. I think we could get the packers pick at 30 or do a player plus pick like they did for smith.

Buehler445 02-14-2019 08:42 AM

I honestly have no freaking clue what to do with him. We're obviously overpaying him, but I'd hate to see the Defense without him.

I'm very much not in favor of keeping Ford, especially for long term money. So I guess that puts me in rather keep him than roll with nobody camp.

Dunerdr 02-14-2019 08:43 AM

I’m probably I the minority but I think Houston’s probably our best defender and it’s probably not as close of a race as a lot of people think. I think he would play the run and pass fine as a de with some line backer versatility in this scheme and I’m not huge on a restructure because bs like that gets you hamstrung to old players past functionality like halo and dj. The money isn’t ideal but unless there’s a solid de on the market for what you save it just doesn’t make sense to me.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 02-14-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 14105886)
I would leave it up to the new coaching staff on that side of the ball. I think you keep Houston, let Ford walk. I would love a tag and trade but fear that won't go as well as we would hope. But at this point we don't know how the scheme change will impact everyone and Houston has enough skills still to adjust well.

This dude lead the league in pressures and forced fumbles. There's no way we'd get anything less than a 2 and an additional mid round pick. The league is always desperate for pass rushers.


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