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tyecopeland 12-07-2022 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16653114)
They possibly robbed him of a career by being ****ing incompetent.
If he played an important position he'd get another shot. Since he's a punter yeah he's probably done.

If Deshaun Watson was a punter, he be out of the league too.

Discuss Thrower 12-07-2022 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16653141)
I can’t even……
.. believe it?

.. complete a sentence?



What is it exactly that you can't even?

MarkDavis'Haircut 12-07-2022 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16653142)
Where do you stand on people who have been charged, but not convicted, of crimes?
Innocent until proven guilty.

I wait until the conviction. Pretty obvious to figure out.

deegs 12-07-2022 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16653142)
Where do you stand on people who have been charged, but not convicted, of crimes?
Where do you stand on people being convicted, and later exonerated, of crimes?

Discuss Thrower 12-07-2022 09:28 PM
Picture it: March 13, 2006. The place? Near the Trinity Heights neighborhood of Durham, North Carolina..

Skyy God 12-07-2022 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 16653145)
.. believe it?

.. complete a sentence?



What is it exactly that you can't even?
Y’all a bunch of impotent, rape apologists incels.

Beyond a reasonable doubt is generally considered to be 90-95% certain. The fact the prosecutors refused to charge is far from a pronouncement of innocence.

tredadda 12-07-2022 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 16653145)
.. believe it?

.. complete a sentence?



What is it exactly that you can't even?
…take a real woman to Belize?

Why Not? 12-07-2022 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 16653143)
There are two kinds of innocent. When they say you're innocent until proven guilty, it means that you're innocent in the eyes of the law. That doesn't necessarily mean you didn't actually do it though.

You are not wrong here. However, the eyes of the law are the closest thing we have to a scientific way to view innocence vs guilt. Otherwise, it casts a pretty wide net. Matt Araiza may have done it, but so may have Bob up the street from you or Ned down the street from me. Now, neither of those guys have been charged or accused of the crime, but that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't do it. There has to be some metric on which people can view or base their opinion of Araiza or any other accused person (even though we all know some people, right or wrong, will always be held responsible in the eyes of some others for things they are accused of) or else anyone accused of anything would have their entire life ruined, more so than they already do.



Dropping the charges allows them to refile the charges at a later date if more evidence comes to light. Prosecuting the guy and getting a not guilty verdict permanently enjoins the government from ever prosecuting the guy for that crime ever again.


Fair and good points.
Responded in the quoted section.

Bearcat 12-07-2022 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16653095)
Believe all women cost another man his career.

Innocent until proven guilty is a better system than social media mob rule.
Or "star athlete with money makes another rape go away". :shrug:

It's pretty naive to think this news means nothing happened.

He'll probably get signed somewhere anyway and can maybe take this as a hint that it's quite the privilege to play a sport for large sums of money... or else, *gasp*, he can find a real job.

(and I hate social media pressure leading to people immediately being fired before anything is figured out, but generally where there's smoke, there's fire)

Chiefs4TheWin 12-07-2022 09:37 PM
Is this a Big Ben payoff situation?

Sassy Squatch 12-07-2022 09:37 PM
Yeah, this does nothing but make the police that handled the initial accusations look like even bigger dipshits. Araiza outright admitted to having sex with her already when she was under the age of consent. He then realized what a colossal ****up that was and tried to walk it back but, well, probably a bit too late for that.

DJ's left nut 12-07-2022 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16653105)
What kind of fence riding shit is this?

Evidence does not support the story that was given. Ergo, he is innocent of the accusations in the story until proven guilty.

Since there were no charges, based on no evidence, I'd say that leans toward **** off I didn't do this thing I'm being accused of.

But like I said, no matter what actually happened, he's guilty already with certain people.

Your post is proof of concept.
You are just so incredibly stupid.

RedinTexas 12-07-2022 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16653157)
Responded in the quoted section.
I understand your point about using the standard of innocent until proven guilty. That standard exists for the government though, and prevents them from taking away anyone's life, liberty, or property without due process of law. However, you and I are free to form our own opinions. For example, I believe that OJ Simpson was guilty of murdering Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. I believe a majority of the people would agree with me on that. However, the jury found him not guilty. Therefore the government cannot punish OJ for that crime, but you and I are perfectly free to believe whatever we want about his "innocence."

Bump 12-07-2022 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16653154)
Y’all a bunch of impotent, rape apologists incels.

Beyond a reasonable doubt is generally considered to be 90-95% certain. The fact the prosecutors refused to charge is far from a pronouncement of innocence.

so the fact that the prosecutors refused to charge is a pronouncement of being guilty?

The guy said people should be innocent until proven guilty and you're all like "oh ur a rape apologist and ur involuntary celibate!"

It's more of an involuntary celibate move to take a photo of a stripper from the outhouse and then claim to go to belize with her

Discuss Thrower 12-07-2022 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16653166)
Yeah, this does nothing but make the police that handled the initial accusations look like even bigger dipshits. Araiza outright admitted to having sex with her already when she was under the age of consent. He then realized what a colossal ****up that was and tried to walk it back but, well, probably a bit too late for that.
Seems like a pretty open and shut case for statutory considering he admitted to it.

And the fact she was recorded lying about her age which never is considered a valid defense against statutory rape to boot.


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