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TRR 07-03-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
And I am afraid they will regret it if they don't. Visions of McCleon holding down the fort opposite of Surtain does nothing for me.

I don't have any visions of McCleon holding down the fort. I am very comfortable with Ashley Ambrose starting opposite Surtain.

Simplex3 07-03-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
We already have that guy in Pat Surtain.

...and Sammy Knight and Kendrell Bell.

Manila-Chief 07-03-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
I didn't realize we had that much cap space...

Me neither! That is surprising!! Reading that raises my hopes a tad. I had totally written him off after the recent signing. CP can use the 3.5 with a big signing bonus and make it happen.

I suspect they are still concerned about his foot??? Oh, and YES, C.P. is trying to get him as cheap as possible.

I like the sound of the best D.B.s in the NFL!!!!! Mix in a greatly improved LBer corps. And hopefully ... allow the DL to rise above 04 performances and we have a great cake in the oven!!! Making it hot on opposing O. Wouldn't that be fun to watch week after week.

Simplex3 07-03-2005 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
I don't have any visions of McCleon holding down the fort. I am very comfortable with Ashley Ambrose starting opposite Surtain.

Ambrose would have been a starter last year if the coaches hadn't been hell-bent on a youth movement.

bringbackmarty 07-03-2005 09:55 AM

the bottom line is carl has a hard on for law, and we just might get him.

Coogs 07-03-2005 09:55 AM

Plus, if Shields, Roaf, and some of the other older guys retire next season as has been hinted, wouldn't that cap space be available next year if a two part signing bonus is structured in this contract?

Coogs 07-03-2005 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
We already have that guy in Pat Surtain.

So Surtain stops guys like Moss. Meanwhile, Porter has a career day on the other side of the field...

TRR 07-03-2005 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
Plus, if Shields, Roaf, and some of the other older guys retire next season as has been hinted, wouldn't that cap space be available next year if a two part signing bonus is structured in this contract?

You can always find the room. The problem is Law wants to be payed like Pat Surtain. Do you really think Law is worth that much coming off a major injury?

Chiefaholic 07-03-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
I would love to have Ty Law as well. But I am concerned about his injury. Anyone can get out there and run around in shorts and T-Shirts. Sly Morris could do that with the best of them. But how is that foot going to hold up when the pads go on?

I would hate to see KC shell out big bucks for a guy who may end up being a shell of his former self.


And I'de hate even worse to watch Law play like his former self while teams are picking us to pieces through the air (expecially during Warfields suspension). If we had a healthy Law and Surtain starting and Warfield playing nickle, it's going to force opponents to play a one dimensional offense. And all of us know what Gun can do to a one dimensional offense (see Atlanta game last year). If we have unused cap space left going into this season, while a guys available that has the potential to be a playmaker, SPEND THE DAMN MONEY.

TRR 07-03-2005 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
So Surtain stops guys like Moss. Meanwhile, Porter has a career day on the other side of the field...

Pure speculation. Ambrose has been a solid CB in the league for years and in my opinion, is on the same level as Eric Warfield.

Manila-Chief 07-03-2005 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
And I am afraid they will regret it if they don't. Visions of McCleon holding down the fort opposite of Surtain does nothing for me.

Correct!!! And if they do sign him and he doesn't play to expectations ... what will we lose? Cap room for next year? So what!!!! It's not like we have not struck out with players in the past. At least he has a lot more potential upside than most others we have signed in recent years.

If we have not chance at him I'll shut my mouth. But, if we have a shot and C.P. blows it then ........................

mikey23545 07-03-2005 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic
And I'de hate even worse to watch Law play like his former self while teams are picking us to pieces through the air (expecially during Warfields suspension). If we had a healthy Law and Surtain starting and Warfield playing nickle, it's going to force opponents to play a one dimensional offense. And all of us know what Gun can do to a one dimensional offense (see Atlanta game last year). If we have unused cap space left going into this season, while a guys available that has the potential to be a playmaker, SPEND THE DAMN MONEY.

Awful easy to spend someone elses money on risky investments, huh?

Coogs 07-03-2005 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Ambrose would have been a starter last year if the coaches hadn't been hell-bent on a youth movement.

Something about that statement does not make me feel any better about AA. I'm just lukewarm on AA at best. I saw a couple of his interceptions last year on TV this weekend. There were no offensive players anywhere around him. Just very crappy throws by the QB's/ blown routes by the WR's.

Coogs 07-03-2005 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
You can always find the room. The problem is Law wants to be payed like Pat Surtain. Do you really think Law is worth that much coming off a major injury?

This year is it for the offense as we know it. Yes, I think Law is worth it.

TRR 07-03-2005 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
This year is it for the offense as we know it. Yes, I think Law is worth it.

Fans and media have been saying that for the last couple of seasons about the offense.


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