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Extra Point 11-23-2005 04:50 PM

I want Dilfer to back up Green next season. Collins or Huard can go. In two years, we draft Jamarcus Russell from LSU. Those two Trents can teach any QBOTF a boat load.

cdcox 11-23-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
So in all honesty would you rather pick 9, or win a few games finish 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs and pick in the 18 range?

I don't believe in purposefully tanking games because it develops a losing attitude that sticks with a team year after year after year. You always have to be getting better as an organization. Nothing succeeds like success.

ZootedGranny 11-23-2005 04:55 PM

I don't think Trent has a "rag arm" but as soon as that projection popped up on the screen, I called bullshit. Monday Night Favre threw and absolute laser during the game, and they said it was the equivalent of a 98 mph fastball...comparitively, Favre's pass looked MUCH faster.

So either I'm losing my eyesight, or ESPN's stat guys ****ed up.

Rain Man 11-23-2005 05:06 PM

I love that trajectory tracker. It's really effective in showing just how strong and accurate ANY pro quarterback is. Even their short passes are travelling quite a distance.

Bob Dole 11-23-2005 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
physics

So <b>that's</b> what Miss Cleo is up to these days.

robot monster 11-23-2005 05:24 PM

Since this pass went 63 feet, that means for it to have been going 91mph the ball would have needed to arrive at the receiver in about half a second. It was a short pass but that sounds a little too quick. But, it's a comparable distance to a baseball pitch, which I think is about 58 feet?

Maybe they are compensating for the force required to be exerted on the thrown object. Certainly the same force in Newtons would throw a baseball and a football at different speeds due to the different natures of the two objects.

Rain Man 11-23-2005 05:27 PM

I suspect that they probably got some physics prof to give them a very simple formula for converting "football speed" to "baseball speed." Truthfully, I'll bet the formula is pretty complicated.

Mecca 11-23-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
I don't believe in purposefully tanking games because it develops a losing attitude that sticks with a team year after year after year. You always have to be getting better as an organization. Nothing succeeds like success.

I don't mean the team needs to go out there and tank games. I mean as a fan what would you prefer for the future of the team. I don't want the team to purposely tank games. But I understand how in the long run as a fan going 6-10 could be more beneficial than going 8-8.

Deberg_1990 11-23-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I don't mean the team needs to go out there and tank games. I mean as a fan what would you prefer for the future of the team. I don't want the team to purposely tank games. But I understand how in the long run as a fan going 6-10 could be more beneficial than going 8-8.

IM with ya brother........It would be different if we were a franchise like the Pats who have been to the big dance oh say 5 times or so in the past 20 years. The sad fact is, we havent sniffed the big dance in 30+ years. It hasnt helped us much to be mediorce every year so why not try something different?? IM willing to suffer through some down seasons like 3 or 4 wins as long as we get some sure fire bluechippers. In 1988 and 1989 we got Neil Smith and Derrick Thomas, I would kill for some impact players like that again on offense or defense.

plbrdude 11-23-2005 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man
I suspect that they probably got some physics prof to give them a very simple formula for converting "football speed" to "baseball speed." Truthfully, I'll bet the formula is pretty complicated.

probly one of those formulas that takes 40 some years to solve :)

Extra Point 11-23-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robot monster
Certainly the same force in Newtons would throw a baseball and a football at different speeds due to the different natures of the two objects.

They have a football radar gun at the Nabisco factory?

NFW is a football thrown equivalent to a 91 mph fastball. They aren't factoring in the inertia. Then, again, I will never challenge Trent Green to a game of dodgeball.

mikey23545 11-23-2005 07:14 PM

I watched the Chiefs "tank" every year for almost the entire decade of the 1980's...Didn't notice them winning any Super Bowls because of it...

You have to be a complete football moron to actually think that having a crap record automatically equates to improvement...

Pitt Gorilla 11-23-2005 07:21 PM

It's usually not a bad idea to draft in the 10-20 range. Very good talent at cheaper cap tags. Just think if we could have drafted LJ or DJ higher!!! If only we'd had a pick high enough to get Freeney...

Pants 11-23-2005 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by robot monster
Since this pass went 63 feet, that means for it to have been going 91mph the ball would have needed to arrive at the receiver in about half a second. It was a short pass but that sounds a little too quick. But, it's a comparable distance to a baseball pitch, which I think is about 58 feet?

Maybe they are compensating for the force required to be exerted on the thrown object. Certainly the same force in Newtons would throw a baseball and a football at different speeds due to the different natures of the two objects.

Umm, look at the trajectory. It didn't go in a straight line.

Logical 11-23-2005 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

First I don't think Trent has a rag arm but he has no real strength or accuracy when it comes to the long ball to the sidelines. He is fine over the middle and medium range and in. That being said that stupid ESPN MLB equivalent is totally bogus.


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