i'm good with giving AL a shot as long as we completely clean house on the defensive side of the ball.

top 3 offense the last 4-5 year

For someone with a complete inability to make changes and adjust, Saunder has done a great job scoring points and moving the ball. Especially when you consider all the dropped balls, penalties, injuries, etc.

It's funny to see people have to go back to the first SD game to critique the guy.

He would be a fine fit. Look at what he has done for the offense.

Clock management? I'd put more of that on Vermiel, than on Saunders. That has been pathetic, I agree.

As far as LJ missing a block...that sucks, yes. No doubt about it. Unfortunately, it happens. Hopefully it will happen less, as LJ becomes a better blocker.....what's that have to do with Saunders? Other than, maybe he had faith that LJ might be able to do it in that particular case...:shrug:

I think there were some miscalculations by the coaching staff, earlier in the season....with regard to limitations of some players due to injuries and agree they should have been able to figure it out, but didn't. Once again though, I'd put that more on Vermiel than Saunders.

The offense scored 17 pts in the second half of the SD game....

top 3 offense for almost his entire tenure and he did it without a stud receiver.


not bad in my book

Ain't gonna happen.

That's bullshit. The very game you mention (S.D.) he had a quarterback pass for more yards in one half then any other quarterback had up to that point in the year. He had a back rush for over 100 yards in a quarter. If plays weren't being made it's because his quarterback was throwing interceptions or taking sacks. Is an offense going to stagnate sometimes? Sure. Same thing happens on defense. The chicago bears defense has given up big plays and had games of 150 + yards rushing allowed this year. Nobody can be perfect in the NFL. But when a guy leads the league in a category 5 years in a row he should get some respect and Saunders has done that.

My problem with AS isn't that he is a terrible coach. My problem is that we can't get rid of ALL the players, but if you keep players and coaches but send a few coaches packing what have you really changed? The only way a current Chiefs coach can win the players back would be to take the job, unmercifully fire every other coach, then become a different person than they were when DV was here. I don't see AS doing that because of his loyalty to DV.

Why not?

I could see them dumping everyone but Gun, and maybe Karmelowicz..... :hmmm:

You did see LJ get stuffed three times in a row last week against the NYG. LJ should have been able to pick up the blitz. Poor execution, not poor playcalling.

yea ... well, that's a completely different question


if it takes dropping everyone to get new defensive coaches then buh-bye to Al.


but if these defensive coaches stay then it has nothing to do with AL and everything to do with Carl.

I say change a lot of the coaches and players. Keep the ones who've been successful is what I'm saying....

I'd say 10-12 players need cut; and an equal number of coaches....I think that would go along way toward "righting" the ship, if those cut are the ones deserving of being shown the door:

Bartee, Bell, Woods, Hicks, etc.....Guinta, Dean, Hairston, etc.....maybe Wesley and Sims, maybe Gun and Karmelowicz....

Why get cute? 9 yards to score and 1st and goal after moving the ball on the ground and previously scoring two rushing touchdowns (from 11 yards and 1 yard).

Johnson has problems with pass protection from lack of game experience in the NFL, everyone knows it. When Trent misses the previous pass because of pressure why the hell would you take your fullback out and run another pass play in that situation.

That's not Vermeil, thats Saunders.