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tk13 01-03-2006 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ceebz
Well, I'm sure it's not the only reason but, I believe it's one of them. I know Tony gets manhandled but, Gates gets a lot of attention as well. The dropoff in red zone production this year has to worry Carl, and I'm sure he's sick of watching Al run TE screens for Tony.

I also think one of the reasons Carl isn't sold on Al is the situation with LJ. Al's never been a big fan of LJ, and prefers the scatback type runner. I think Carl would like to know he has a coach who's committed to running his thoroughbred.

I understand that concern. And I almost wonder if Al went out of his way to prove that. LJ started like 9 times and still had a zillion carries. He actually gave LJ more carries than Priest has ever had in a season, in far less time... he definitely "ran the thoroughbred".

Hammock Parties 01-03-2006 01:16 AM

If that freaking LB in NE can catch 3 TDs, Tony should be getting more than 2 a year.

tk13 01-03-2006 01:20 AM

Well we could've done better, I'd agree, but I'm talking as a whole... Tony was coming off a 100 catch, 1200 yard season and a 10 TD season the year before that... it's not like Al has a history of not utilizing him.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Well we could've done better, I'd agree, but I'm talking as a whole... Tony was coming off a 100 catch, 1200 yard season and a 10 TD season the year before that... it's not like Al has a history of not utilizing him.

No doubt, I'm not trying to criticize Al. I wish he could stay as OC.

I just think there is no excuse for Tony not getting the ball in the red zone. The Ravens split Heap out wide and threw a jump ball. We never do stuff like that.

Ultra Peanut 01-03-2006 01:47 AM

Cameron? Fassel?!

mnchiefsguy 01-03-2006 01:51 AM

Fassel could well up as the Vikings new coach. Apparently Ziggy Wolf likes him from when he was a Giants season ticket holder.

ChiefsCountry 01-03-2006 04:15 AM

Of course those bitching about Gonzo not getting the tds, we have had two damn good goal line backs in Priest and LJ.

keg in kc 01-03-2006 04:16 AM

The people bitching about Gonzo's TD totals are probably the same ones who bitch when drop back to pass on 1st and goal.

DaWolf 01-03-2006 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I really don't understand the Cam Cameron thing. I like the guy, got nothing against him, he's from my hometown area and all, but I do not understand why we'd hire him over Al Saunders.

I can see many reasons why we'd interview him:

-Pick the brain of a divisional coach
-Marty reccomended him
-Trent Green may have mentioned him (used to be head coach at Green's alma mater). Also was QB coach of the Redskins I think when Green was there.
-Relatively young (44) thus fitting in with what Lamar said about getting a coach who could be here for a while and not a quick fix.

Other than that though, I don't see him having much of a shot at the job. But I don't think he'd be a worse pick than Saunders, who is almost 60...

DaWolf 01-03-2006 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
The people bitching about Gonzo's TD totals are probably the same ones who bitch when drop back to pass on 1st and goal.

I have no problems dropping back to pass on 1st and goal. I do have a problem when the play call is some cute exotic pass designed to go to some second or third stringer in an effort to trick a defense. My opinion is you have playmakers, use them, don't stick them in there as decoys. Either hand it off or get it to Gonzo. Boerighter should be an end zone threat too considering what he did a few years ago and his size. I have no idea what happened to him (though he may just suck now, I'm not blaming Saunders on that one, although I do think it is rediculous that we don't have a better reciever on the roster than Chris Horn, who has no business on this football team, I don't care how hard he works).

Frankly though I don't see why we don't go downfield to Gonzo more often. That's his strength, going up and getting the ball against smaller defenders. When we're at the 25-30 yard line we should take our shots at him downfield in the end zone more...

nascher 01-03-2006 07:18 AM

there is no coach who won't commit to LJ after this season.

BigRedChief 01-03-2006 09:51 AM

pastabelly's take:

Dick Vermeil, Kansas City (retired)
Overview:
Despite having one of the NFL's most powerful offenses in Vermeil's stint, the Chiefs advanced to the playoffs just once in his five years with the club. And now, this is a team at the crossroads, with one of the oldest rosters in the league and perhaps too few emerging youngsters. With president/general manager Carl Peterson at the helm, Kansas City is one of the NFL's best-run operations. But the Chiefs haven't developed a young quarterback, the supposed upgrades on defense seemed to diminish as the season wore on, and the rest of the division remains formidable.

Next for Vermeil: At age 69, and with plenty of outside ventures still on his plate, Vermeil has said his retirement is permanent. At least as far as coaching, you've got to take him at his word. But before making his initial return to the NFL sideline after a lengthy hiatus, Vermeil worked as a college football analyst and a return to the broadcast booth certainly is not out of the question.

Next for Chiefs: Vermeil has been lobbying the last two years for Al Saunders, his offensive coordinator, to succeed him. Then last week, he mentioned Herm Edwards of the New York Jets in a totally unsolicited comment. But it's Peterson, not Vermeil, who will determine the new coach, and so the process might be more inclusive than anyone has realized. Don't rule out Ferentz, who has previous NFL experience. And we would all be naïve, given all the smoke surrounding Edwards, to think there isn't some fire that accompanies it. Edwards, as ESPN.com has noted in recent weeks, is going to make an issue of his compensation level. How big an issue? Big enough. In the end, he's likely to remain with the Jets, but his situation bears watching

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2006 10:54 AM

Cam Cameron was on Jimmy Johnson's staff during the Cowboy's glory years in the 90's. He's well versed in the Coryell/Zampese offense and has been the main reason that San Deigo has become an offensive power (along with mentoring Drew Brees).

Vermeil recommended him to Marty, not the other way around.

Dane

Brock 01-03-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Cam Cameron was on Jimmy Johnson's staff during the Cowboy's glory years in the 90's. He's well versed in the Coryell/Zampese offense and has been the main reason that San Deigo has become an offensive power (along with mentoring Drew Brees).

Vermeil recommended him to Marty, not the other way around.

Dane

Cam Cameron has never worked for the Cowboys.

Imon Yourside 01-03-2006 10:57 AM

The reason Tony didn't get as many TD's this year is because Green finally figured out you throw into triple coverage bad things happen, and I'm happy about that.


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