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Coogs 04-30-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69
On a couple of the plays I saw, the OT just rode him into the middle of the line while DeAngelo Williams walked around the end. Then one passing play he got a little pressure going inside, but the announcer even said he dropped containment and the QB could've ran for an easy 1st down.

Yep!

That passing play scares me when thinking about the ol' Denver bootleg play.

the Talking Can 04-30-2006 08:16 PM

Let's see...you watch one game in which he has 2 sacks and is named MVP...and you conclude from this sample that he is a disappointment.

I've learned two things about Hali tonight.

1. The fact that he improved - by a factor of 300% - his production as a DE in his second year is evidence of his lack of talent.

2. Being named MVP and recording 2 sacks in a Senior Bowl is proof he is over rated and destined to be Hicks waterboy.

dirk digler 04-30-2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
Let's see...you watch one game in which he has 2 sacks and is named MVP...and you conclude from this sample that he is a disappointment.

I've learned two things about Hali tonight.

1. The fact that he improved - by a factor of 300% - his production as a DE in his second year is evidence of his lack of talent.

2. Being named MVP and recording 2 sacks in a Senior Bowl is proof he is over rated and destined to be Hicks waterboy.

ROFL

Great post TC!

the Talking Can 04-30-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
Didn't he have 11 sacks this season in 12 games this season? I would take that.

Plus he had the game deciding sack and turnover against the almighty Ohio State who had like 20 players drafted.

I call that impressive but that is just me.


poor fella...everyone knows that is proof he sucks

the Talking Can 04-30-2006 08:20 PM

I've watched Freeney get his ass handed to him by Tackles in the NFL. I've seen teams run at and over him like he was a stunt ramp.

Does he suck? No.

No one makes plays every play.

suds79 04-30-2006 08:21 PM

Okay well I didn't see the Senior Bowl but I did see Penn State's bowl game and Hali dominated that game.

Opinions vary but IMO to compare Hali to Hicks is laughable. Tamba Hali is twice the athlete Eric Hicks is at this stage in his career. When you compare their speed and epically quickness, it's not even close.

Granted Tamba isn't near as heavy as Eric so I'll give you that he probably isn't as good against the run right now but for me, I want a DE to rush the passer and for the DTs to supply run support.

4 sacks for Eric Hicks last year. Need I say more?

dirk digler 04-30-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
I've watched Freeney get his ass handed to him by Tackles in the NFL. I've seen teams run at and over him like he was a stunt ramp.

Does he suck? No.

No one makes plays every play.

Yep. Roaf flat out OWNS Freeney every time we play them. Freeney is only good on the fast Indy carpet. When he plays on grass he sucks balls.

Coogs 04-30-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can
Let's see...you watch one game in which he has 2 sacks and is named MVP...and you conclude from this sample that he is a disappointment.

Not at all. I just expected to see more. I saw no push at all from Hali nearly the entire game. For winning the MVP, I expected to see so much more. I expected to se a DE who dominated a game. He was virtually non-existant.

You can yell at me all you want. That is what I saw, and apparently shaneo69 saw the same thing.

dirk digler 04-30-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
Not at all. I just expected to see more. I saw no push at all from Hali nearly the entire game. For winning the MVP, I expected to see so much more. I expected to se a DE who dominated a game. He was virtually non-existant.

You can yell at me all you want. That is what I saw, and apparently shaneo69 saw the same thing.


I am curious how many plays did he actually play?

Coogs 04-30-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
I am curious how many plays did he actually play?

Just a guess here, but I would say about 40-45.

dirk digler 04-30-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs
Just a guess here, but I would say about 40-45.

Thanks. I was thinking since it was an all-star game that he didn't play much or it was sporadic.

Coogs 04-30-2006 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
Thanks. I was thinking since it was an all-star game that he didn't play much or it was sporadic.


I had it on TiVo, and I erased it after I was done watching it tonight. Croyle did not play much at all. The first two series, then a bit of mop up at the end.

But both teams only had 3 or 4 DE's, so they were on the field a whole bunch.

Coogs 04-30-2006 09:12 PM

One play that Hali did make that impressed me was a screen play late in the game. Croyle completed it (to the RB from Memphis I think), and Hali was in on the tackle some 30-35 yards down field. Not sure if any of our current linemen could do that.

Halfcan 04-30-2006 09:45 PM

Hali is gonna rock da house!

penchief 04-30-2006 09:58 PM

I wasn't impressed with his Senior Bowl performance, either. As someone who had touted Hali, I was a little disappointed. However, as someone who has also watched most of Penn State's games last year, I have never been unimpressed with him until the Senior Bowl. For whatever that's worth.

I like him. I think he will be tons better than Hicks. I think that he and Allen will create real headaches for offensive coordinators. He may be raw when it comes to experience but he has shown a propensity for the game. And he brings a relentless attitude to our defense that has been sorely missing. Hali's passion will be a needed spark for a Chiefs' defense destined for vast improvement.


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