Cutler has more upside, that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be better. There's a good chance he could be a complete bust too.

Neither will start next year, which means neither team needed a QB. Even if they did, Croyle is far more ready to play now than Cutler is.

To me, Cutler is an 8 out of 10 for potential and a 2 out of 10 for risk. Croyle is about a 4 or 5. When you factor in what each team gave up to get them, I'd absolutely take Croyle.

I met the scout and excoach at the draft dinner last night, who coached Namath and Stabler at Alabama, and he was really high on Brodie. Said he'll remind you of Montana. Said he's been playing in the system we run here, and his learning curve is small.

Of course, he's going to say it's Cutler.

If for any reason, he was picked in the first round and not in the third round.

Good point. But, I like Cutler chances better because Denver has a better history of drafting QB's than KC does.

Despite KC's poor history in drafting QB's, I like Croyle's chances better than any QB we drafted in the past. You have to like a guy who was knocked down on nearly every play, and to get back up and throw as well as he did with poise under pressure. We all know both he and Cutler have the intangilbles, but will they both be able to understand not only the complicated offenses, but the speed of the defenses? Only time will tell.

Since 1982:

Buddy Funck
Todd Ellis
Shawn Moore
Tommy Maddox (25th overall)
Jeff Lewis
Brian Griese
Jarius Jackson
Matt Mauck

That's a great history of drafting QB's right there...

This is simply the funniest homer-thread I've ever seen on CP. You are SERIOUSLY debating whether Brodie "two blown ACLs, a blown shoulder, and a skinny frame" Croyle is going to be a better NFL QB than Cutler. I love it.

Oh, please put my vote in for Cutler.

(Chiefs fans are so cute to watch sometimes; ya' lovable losers you.)

Campus: 4.9 seconds in the 40-yard dash...275-pound bench press...33.5-inch vertical jump...31 ½-inch arm length...10-inch hands...Right-handed...24/42 Wonderlic score.

http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/insi...=Croyle&pos=QB

I'm going to make a reach here and say it's the guy who went in the top 15 over the guy who went at position #85.

Given that Croyle is a walking surgery (missed his senior season of high school with a torn left ACL, separated his shoulder during the 2004 season, tore his right ACL in 2004), I have my doubts he'll even play much at this level.


Aside from that, I can only go on scouting reports, where Cutler has Croyle beat in just about every category. Cutler has proven already to be a better third down quarterback, which I think is crucial at this level. Cutler is faster on his feet than Croyle is, and that lack of speed has hurt Croyle's third down conversion percentage. Cutler has proven to be more natural than Croyle at making a second chance at a play happen, due to his athleticism and ability to escape.

According to the scouting reports, there's a reason why Cutler was drafted at 11 and Croyle was drafted at 85. You definitely got good value at the spot... That's a nice place to draft a Quarterback with Croyle's upside and downside. Bottom line, if Croyle were tougher, he'd probably have been a first rounder.

John Elway.

Brian Griese at least ended up a starter, as did Maddox.

Who have we drafted since that period?

Blackledge? :shake:
Fuller? He did become a starter
Blundin? :shake:

And gawd knows who else.

Of course, you can make the argument that Denver didn't draft Elway, they instead STOLE his arrogant California azz.

In all likelihood they'll both end up sucking and we won't even remember them in 3-4 years.

Cutler:
Campus: 4.81 in the 40-yard dash...400-pound bench press...Bench pressed 225 pounds 27 times...480-pound squat...295-pound power clean...315-pound hang clean...32-inch vertical jump...31 ½-inch arm length...9 3/8-inch hands...Right-handed...26/36 Wonderlic score.

http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/insi...=Cutler&pos=QB

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/croyle_brodie


http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/cutler_jay

I think its far too early to tell, and in truth, due to the fact that Cutler was traded UP in the first round to select, and the Chiefs drafted Croyle in the 3rd more would be expected of the newest Elway replacement.

They both had some Oline issues in college and subpar WRs. From the little I've seen and what I've read, Cutler has a great arm, but Croyle has a little more power and good accuracy.

I think it will boil down to many factors we can't predict..Oline, WRs, coaching and mental capacity under pressure.....and injuries.

Today....I'll give Cutler the Nod.

Ask me again in 3 years.

Denver did not draft Elway.