Here we go again: What is and isn't metal. The thread is about non-metal bands whose sound at times teetered towards metal. I never said the Cars were more Metal than Dead and Count Grischnac from Mayhem.

This thread is about non-metal bands that have some decent heaviness going on. You're misunderstanding it.

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There are those who dispute whether Pantera, especially in their early days, were truly metal. In large part, this is due to the fact that their visual image early on was glam, although their musical style didn't really fit their fashion sense at that time. Cowboys From Hell was a solid metal album, in my opinion, but if you look at concert footage from that era, they basically looked like a pretty-boy hair band. They didn't really start dressing (and grooming) to match the music until Vulgar Display of Power.

Of course, you know Reaper and his technical grasp of the nuances of metal and its various subgenres, so he may have meant something entirely different.

Pantera, to me, represent this link between thrash metal and "nu-metal." Pantera played a more groove oriented thrash-type brand of metal. Frequently, it sounds more rock than metal; thats just Dimebag's style. His playing was maybe the preeminent influence on the playing of "nu-metal" guitarists.

The Cure have some heavy stylings.

Try these songs if you don't belive me...

'Give Me' It and 'Bananafishbones 'from their album 'The Top'

The Kiss,Torture,All I Want,Shiver and Shake and Fight from 'Kiss Me, Kiss me, Kiss Me'

Plainsong, Fascination Street,Prayers for Rain off of their album Disintegration

...and At Night from their live album
'Paris'.

On a side note...Chimaira covered "Fascination Street" on some Roadrunner comp. Very cool.

There were other heavy bands exploring "groove" at the same time as (or slightly before) Pantera.

Suicidal Tendencies comes to mind immediately.

I think the other band that contributed mightily to the "nu-metal" craze was Anthrax and it only took one song with Public Enemy.

QOTSA rules.

Evanescence, but Amy needs to wear tighter, more revealing outfits.

They also did "I'm the Man", which wasn't as popular, but was a bit fun when I was younger.

Plus I get to use it in every fight I get into with the wife, I just drop the, "'cause I'm the Man.", she laughs and the fight is over.

Old skewl choice- Boston. While extremely poppy and harmonic, just listen to the guitars on the first album- Marshall powered all the way.

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