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Chiefnj 12-21-2006 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by arc
They started moving the ball a little in the second half when they started going to the quicker slants and underneath throws.

The same thing happened in the Ravens game - Trent would drop back, stand there with LJ or Bigfoot wide open underneath and eventually get sacked or throw it away once the pressure got there.


Trent didn't have much time, if any at all, to "stand there" with someone open.

jjjayb 12-21-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk
I posted this yesterday, but will do so again.

Against the Chargers, we ran 14 times on 1st and 10, and threw 13 times on 1st and 10.

In the first half, it was 7 1st and 10 passes and 7 1st and 10 runs.

I don't see play calling as an issue.

Just because there are equal amounts of running and passing plays doesn't mean the offense isn't predictable. When in the 1st and 2nd halfs did those first down throws come? When time was running out? When we did throw, what formations were we using? Obvious passing formations? Etc. Etc.. Etc...

Frosty 12-21-2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Trent didn't have much time, if any at all, to "stand there" with someone open.

He did against the Ravens. Dierdork mentioned several times how much time Trent had. Trent still ignored the underneath stuff, waiting for someone downfield to open up.

Part of it is definitely play calling, though. Against a fast blitzing defense, normally you would run more mis-direction plays and play action to slow the rush down. The Chiefs need to call more of that. Still, Trent also needs to get to checkdowns a little quicker, IMO.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-21-2006 01:57 PM

I agree with Trent and LJ.

The play calling has been too predictable, and I said that was going to be the case with Herm coming in. Solari tried to call it his way in the preseason, but then Herm went on a hissy-fit. Herm said he wasn't going to touch the offense, but he has. Running it 50 times a game shows you he's not a good coach. He thinks he's playing playstation or something. He doesn't have to coach if he can just run it all the time. And the way we ran our offense this year, did not in any way help our defense despite what Herm says. The defense just got better this year, and also played pretty poor QBed teams, we aren't there yet, but we have improved compared to the past. Herm's definition of balance is "run, run, pass, kick field goals, play good defense." He's worse than Marty, IMO.

And our offensive line isn't built to play Herm's up the butt run it offense. We had the most success with LJ this year pulling, sweeps and running draws.

Herm needs to make like Tony Dungy and leave the offense alone. IMO, his conservative nature has caused them the most problems. Solari's hands are tied, IMO.

FAX 12-21-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
I agree with Trent and LJ.

The play calling has been too predictable, and I said that was going to be the case with Herm coming in. Solari tried to call it his way in the preseason, but then Herm went on a hissy-fit. Herm said he wasn't going to touch the offense, but he has. Running it 50 times a game shows you he's not a good coach. He thinks he's playing playstation or something. He doesn't have to coach if he can just run it all the time. And the way we ran our offense this year, did not in any way help our defense despite what Herm says. The defense just got better this year, and also played pretty poor QBed teams, we aren't there yet, but we have improved compared to the past. Herm's definition of balance is "run, run, pass, kick field goals, play good defense." He's worse than Marty, IMO.

And our offensive line isn't built to play Herm's up the butt run it offense. We had the most success with LJ this year pulling, sweeps and running draws.

Herm needs to make like Tony Dungy and leave the offense alone. IMO, his conservative nature has caused them the most problems. Solari's hands are tied, IMO.

A voice of reason in the wilderness.

Rep things to you and yours, Mr. Vanilla Thunder.

FAX

DaWolf 12-21-2006 02:40 PM

Another reason the passing game might be less than brilliant this year is because of the guy who is in charge of the passing game, Terry Shea, our QB coach. If you remember his short tenure as the OC in Chicago, and what a disaster that was. Not sure he's exactly bringing the most brilliant offensive mind to the table...

Hootie 12-21-2006 02:41 PM

Huard >>> Green

ShortRoundChief 12-21-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
Huard >>> Green


Hootie=licker of da ballz

Sure-Oz 12-21-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
Huard >>> Green

i bet you have a huard fathead.

Sure-Oz 12-21-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder
I agree with Trent and LJ.

The play calling has been too predictable, and I said that was going to be the case with Herm coming in. Solari tried to call it his way in the preseason, but then Herm went on a hissy-fit. Herm said he wasn't going to touch the offense, but he has. Running it 50 times a game shows you he's not a good coach. He thinks he's playing playstation or something. He doesn't have to coach if he can just run it all the time. And the way we ran our offense this year, did not in any way help our defense despite what Herm says. The defense just got better this year, and also played pretty poor QBed teams, we aren't there yet, but we have improved compared to the past. Herm's definition of balance is "run, run, pass, kick field goals, play good defense." He's worse than Marty, IMO.

And our offensive line isn't built to play Herm's up the butt run it offense. We had the most success with LJ this year pulling, sweeps and running draws.

Herm needs to make like Tony Dungy and leave the offense alone. IMO, his conservative nature has caused them the most problems. Solari's hands are tied, IMO.

Best post right there....

Hootie 12-21-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
i bet you have a huard fathead.

they don't make those =(


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