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the Talking Can 01-07-2007 12:09 AM

Gun likes it in the rear.

ROYC75 01-07-2007 12:10 AM

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

KCJohnny 01-07-2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777
Vermeil built this offense into what it was, and I think you underestimate his ability to adjust. I have no doubt that if Vermeil were here this line would not be playing quite this badly. The play calling would not be this bad and our offense would have more confidence if Vermeil was here.

:toast:

yeti 01-07-2007 12:10 AM

well DV is gone so who cares what he would have done this year. Herm is here and all we can do is hope that Carl will activate his good ol' boy network in 2008 and bring back his boy Cowher

blueballs 01-07-2007 12:12 AM

you have to build through the draft
you can't say DV didn't suck at it
5 years was enough for the old man

007 01-07-2007 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by yeti
well DV is gone so who cares what he would have done this year. Herm is here and all we can do is hope that Carl will activate his good ol' boy network in 2008 and bring back his boy Cowher and the get the f### out of here.

Fixed yer post.

yeti 01-07-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru
Fixed yer post.

Oh ya I forgot. Thanks.

kcxiv 01-07-2007 12:15 AM

This game reminded me of the Defense from 1997 where they would bend like hell between the 20's but when you got in the red zone they shut it out. I am not saying it is the D from the 97 team, but it was reminding me of it.

Guntharr wether people like it or not is the one that started the turn around. There was flashes of it last year, and it was even better this year. The D will be even better next year when we get a DT worth flying fuck.

GUntharr isnt going anywhere, and i for one am glad.

People may hate on me, but thats fine, you got haters everywhere.

KCJohnny 01-07-2007 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv
This game reminded me of the Defense from 1997 where they would bend like hell between the 20's but when you got in the red zone they shut it out. I am not saying it is the D from the 97 team, but it was reminding me of it.

Guntharr wether people like it or not is the one that started the turn around. There was flashes of it last year, and it was even better this year. The D will be even better next year when we get a DT worth flying fuck.

GUntharr isnt going anywhere, and i for one am glad.

People may hate on me, but thats fine, you got haters everywhere.

\\I agree, we were an 8-8 team last year without Gun's leadership. I just hate it that he was force fed Cover 2 this year or we might just well have been 11-5. Still, Herm killed this O. Damn. :shake:

kcxiv 01-07-2007 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
\\I agree, we were an 8-8 team last year without Gun's leadership. I just hate it that he was force fed Cover 2 this year or we might just well have been 11-5. Still, Herm killed this O. Damn. :shake:

Best part was when Whitlocked asked Herm, how did this defense go from bieng 1-2 in the league to what it is now in under a year. Herm just said i dont know. lol I really did laugh

yeti 01-07-2007 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv
This game reminded me of the Defense from 1997 where they would bend like hell between the 20's but when you got in the red zone they shut it out. I am not saying it is the D from the 97 team, but it was reminding me of it.

Guntharr wether people like it or not is the one that started the turn around. There was flashes of it last year, and it was even better this year. The D will be even better next year when we get a DT worth flying fuck.

GUntharr isnt going anywhere, and i for one am glad.

People may hate on me, but thats fine, you got haters everywhere.

I am still not sure whether it's soley Gunther's doing. However, he led the D's of the '90s so he has to know something. I think that with some possible badass safeties (pollard and page) and a DT then we might have something going for us.

RJ 01-07-2007 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
:BS:

If ya don't have what ya want, work with what ya have. Today demonstrated a cluelessness that makes Jimmy Raye look like Don Coryell. Without a valiant defense, we lost this game 56-0 with no dignity intact at all.


I agree with this. After playing 16 regular season games Herm and his offensive coaches should have a better grasp on both their strengths and weaknesses.

I heard one of the announcers today quote Herm as saying he knew that if we got behind the line wouldn't be able to stop their pass rush. Good that he knew that, but why work off such a conservative strategy if you know you can't play from behind? Seems like that's a clue to come out aggressive and try to get an early lead.

Having said all that, the Colts are the better team and would probably win 8 times if we played 10. But it shoudn't have been so lopsided.

chiefsfan1963 01-07-2007 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777
Vermeil built this offense into what it was, and I think you underestimate his ability to adjust. I have no doubt that if Vermeil were here this line would not be playing quite this badly. The play calling would not be this bad and our offense would have more confidence if Vermeil was here.


:clap: :clap:

KCJohnny 01-07-2007 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ
I agree with this. After playing 16 regular season games Herm and his offensive coaches should have a better grasp on both their strengths and weaknesses.

I heard one of the announcers today quote Herm as saying he knew that if we got behind the line wouldn't be able to stop their pass rush. Good that he knew that, but why work off such a conservative strategy if you know you can't play from behind? Seems like that's a clue to come out aggressive and try to get an early lead.

Having said all that, the Colts are the better team and would probably win 8 times if we played 10. But it shoudn't have been so lopsided.

Thanks, RJ. There should have been, as Jo Po suggested, a plan B, especially when the game plan was run it down their throats with2 of our best blockers (Dunn and Turley) voluntarily put on IR to protect PRACTICE SQUAD players from the waiver wire.

chiefsfan1963 01-07-2007 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny
Without the heart demonstrated by the D, this game is a humiliation of Biblical proportions. The NFL's Top O from 2005 getting 126 yards of total offense against one of the worst defenses in history to ever make the playoffs. Yeah. Right. Fire Gun. :shake:

it amazes me how people on this board have totally deluded themselves on how lucky we were when DV and AS were here. All we needed was a decent D, and we would have gone the distance at least twice.

This O will never come close to what we had the prior 5 years. Tis a shame. Rest in peace almighty O we'll miss you.


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