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KCJohnny 01-08-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KC-TBB
No...but I believe we have a Head Coach that is going to stubbornly stick to whatever he likes...no matter if it works or not.

That's what DV did in 2001 with Ramifization. Maybe it will be gangbusters in '08... :shrug:

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 10:40 AM

Law would get completely abused in a man-coverage scheme BTW.

htismaqe 01-08-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Getting rid of Wesley and Bell will make a big difference...and probably Lenny Walls, too.

We're gonna go through some growing pains with Pollard and Page, but it's time to put them in. Show Sammy the bench and Wesley the door...

el borracho 01-08-2007 10:55 AM

As we played it, I'm not a fan. With an exceptional front four, we would all be fans. We need at least 2 DTs to make this thing go.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
We're gonna go through some growing pains with Pollard and Page, but it's time to put them in. Show Sammy the bench and Wesley the door...

I agree 100%, although Knight would be a good backup.

el borracho 01-08-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Getting rid of Wesley and Bell will make a big difference...and probably Lenny Walls, too.

Really, you were unhappy with Walls' performance? I thought he was a huuuuge upgrade over Sapp.

htismaqe 01-08-2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
I agree 100%, although Knight would be a good backup.

That's why I said show him the bench.

Chiefnj 01-08-2007 11:21 AM

I don't mind Wesley. He still likes to hit. Get some pressure up front and all of the players in the secondary will look better. Let Wesley, Page and Pollard all fight it out for the two starting spots.

Bowser 01-08-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
I agree 100%, although Knight would be a good backup.

He's be on kick/punt coverage, then. Does he still have the speed to pull it off?

Hammock Parties 01-08-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
He's be on kick/punt coverage, then. Does he still have the speed to pull it off?

Knight's been on the kick coverage team all year I think.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-08-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho
As we played it, I'm not a fan. With an exceptional front four, we would all be fans. We need at least 2 DTs to make this thing go.

Look at Philly's front four. They aren't nearly as talented as the Chiefs, nor are their linebackers. The difference is that their scheme works with the strength of their D, a strong secondary. Ours exacerbates our greatest weakness, the DTs, MLB and idiot FS.

B_Ambuehl 01-08-2007 01:28 PM

The cover 2 requires a good front 7 and makes up for a weak secondary. The man on man scheme requires good front 4 and back 4...take your pick really.

The funny thing is our personnel this year was much better suited to run Gun's blitz happy scheme.

Fishpicker 01-08-2007 02:49 PM

I like the Tampa 2 but we play that as the base defense way too often. It works best when you mix it up with blitzes. Gun and co. got into the habit of playing Tampa 2 by default during the second halves of a lot of football games this year. I think we're married to this defense for as long as we start the Law/Surtain tandem

I think one of the major problems we had this year was the CBs ran a bit too far with the WRs and we wound up with gaping holes in the flat/sideliness. (possibly due to the CBs not fully trusting the safeties to help over the top.) ala Cleveland Browns

The safeties weren't out of position as much as in previous years yet Wesley and Knight do not have adequate footspeed to cover half the field. this is especially true when they are brought down in to the box for run support. I hope a changing of the guard can improve our deep zone coverage. Pollard and Page will experience some growing pains but we should let them learn on the job for the sake of 2008. If we scheme correctly those 2 should show some immediate dividends.

so in short I think our secondary can get by while we retool our interior defense over the next 2 years. But by then we will need to upgrade both corners.

Mecca 01-08-2007 02:53 PM

It takes ungodly talent to run a cover 2 in this day an age......or your the Colts on defense.

Hell USC runs in it college but they probably have as much talent back there as NFL teams and PC has a much more blitzing style cover 2 than we do....maybe Herm should take some notes from them.

petegz28 01-08-2007 02:53 PM

You have a good down 4 and the cover 2 can work fine.


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