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RP_McMurphy 12-10-2007 10:05 AM

Maurice Williams is ok but seems to have lost some speed over the last few years. Tony Pashos has taken over his spot and done alot better for the Jaguars. If you can get him for a decent cap number I would go for it. He's more of a run blocker than a pass blocker at this point.

RedThat 12-10-2007 10:07 AM

I'd rather have the Chiefs keep the 2nd round pick.

RP_McMurphy 12-10-2007 10:09 AM

Gonna sweeten this pot some more..........want that high second. I'll thrown in the Jaguars extra fifth rounder.....basically three players for one.

ChiefsCountry 12-10-2007 10:17 AM

You are way overvaluing Barnes dude.

Chiefs_5627 12-10-2007 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
You are way overvaluing Barnes dude.



Agreed, he's basically clinging to, "well we spent a 2nd, so he's gotta be worth about that".

MahiMike 12-10-2007 10:54 AM

fugetaboudit!

Valiant 12-10-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.


But they do if you want to get rid of him.. It is a buyers market with the way the league is structured now with trades.. Look at randy and some of the other deals.. first day picks are worth a ton, if we couldn't get a 1st for LJ last year what makes you think you can get a 2nd..


Unless you find a really stupid team like the niners..

RP_McMurphy 12-10-2007 11:34 AM

Guess you guys don't want a starting NFL tackle. Let me know how that current offensive line is working for you guys. How many broken down quarterbacks and running backs do you guys have now?

RealSNR 12-10-2007 11:37 AM

We'll trade you Boomer Grigsby for Barnes. How about that? Is that fair?

He does a mean radio show...

HolmeZz 12-10-2007 11:37 AM

Barnes was taken in the 2nd round and hasn't maintained that value.

SBK 12-10-2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Guess you guys don't want a starting NFL tackle. Let me know how that current offensive line is working for you guys. How many broken down quarterbacks and running backs do you guys have now?

How bout this trade. We'll send you Kyle Turley, Chris Terry and Kris Wilson and you can send us Maurice Jones-Drew and Reggie Nelson. We'll even throw in the conditional 7th round pick we got for Sims too. Seems to make sense to me.

RP_McMurphy 12-10-2007 11:40 AM

Nope.......but well take Jared Allen in free agency after Carl has mismanaged his CAP room to the point where he can't sign Allen even with a franchise tag (I see the only way to get Allen under CAP is to get rid of LJ or Gonzalez).

ChiefsCountry 12-10-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Nope.......but well take Jared Allen in free agency after Carl has mismanaged his CAP room to the point where he can't sign Allen even with a franchise tag (I see the only way to get Allen under CAP is to get rid of LJ or Gonzalez).

You do know the Chiefs have plenty of cap room this year so you can kiss that dream bye bye.

Extra Point 12-10-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement
Chances are we're going to end up with a top 5 choice, and that means all our rounds choices will be bumped up that high. Giving up a 2nd rounder for him won't happen. No reason to give up a high choice with the prospect of getting a younger, possibly more talented, and cap-friendlier prospect.

This team isn't a few pieces away, so stick with drafting BPA through the draft, and pick up need players thru FA- even if you have to pay a bit more on the open market. For example, a guy like Lilja, KC native, is a 4 year vet and only 26. It's fairly safe to assume that he's got a min. of 8 solid years in him, but still enough that would make any contract he signs be worth it and just as he's entering his "prime" years.

I'd be more than willing to pay up for him b/c you know you've got a quality addition. With the roster turnover that should happen, paying a little more for sure bet FA's is worth it b/c the number of younger guys coming in will free up some cap space.

Good stuff. Agreed.

HolmeZz 12-10-2007 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy
Nope.......but well take Jared Allen in free agency after Carl has mismanaged his CAP room to the point where he can't sign Allen even with a franchise tag (I see the only way to get Allen under CAP is to get rid of LJ or Gonzalez).

They have plenty of room to sign Allen, n00b.


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