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HC_Chief 12-19-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv
Cowher learned later in his career to let the guys on offense score if they can score. Not hold the game close like Herm wants.

Herm preaches defense year in and year out. Cowher actually has the defenses year in and year out.

not only that, but Cowher also had a TON of turnover and yet still managed to consistently field a winner.

kaplin42 12-19-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Not at all accurate. Sure, in his early years he was run, run, run, then run again, but in his latter seasons Pittsburgh had a very creative offense with a potent passing game. Just because a team runs well it does not mean it is conservative.


I know that in his last 3 seasons they started to open up the offense a bit more once they got Big Ben. But that does not change his run style of offense. And even durring that time, when they got a 14 pt lead, they would sit on the ball and just run it. Again, not opposed to Cowher, be he is not going to bring any team that he coaches flashiest offense. It will be a run first offense.

kaplin42 12-19-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
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Originally Posted by kcxiv
Cowher learned later in his career to let the guys on offense score if they can score. Not hold the game close like Herm wants.

Herm preaches defense year in and year out. Cowher actually has the defenses year in and year out.

not only that, but Cowher also had a TON of turnover and yet still managed to consistently field a winner.

I loved cowhers D, especially since I'm a stong supporter of 3-4, Cowher would be a great coach, and I would take him over Herm in a second. But I think you are fooling yourselves if you are expecting an explosive offense with Cowher as the HC.

BIG_DADDY 12-19-2007 05:17 PM

Yep

Crush 12-19-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX
Not a damned thing. Which greatly improves our situation.


ROFL

tk13 12-19-2007 05:21 PM

I honestly don't think Cowher and Herm are that different. The biggest difference is Cowher has probably done a better job of hiring coordinators. But I think their philosophies are fairly similar. That's not a knock on Cowher, he's one of the best, but I bet if we gave Herm 15 years he'd probably have a couple really good playoff runs too.

kcxiv 12-19-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I honestly don't think Cowher and Herm are that different. The biggest difference is Cowher has probably done a better job of hiring coordinators. But I think their philosophies are fairly similar. That's not a knock on Cowher, he's one of the best, but I bet if we gave Herm 15 years he'd probably have a couple really good playoff runs too.

They are basically the same. Herm learned under Cowher. Cowher actually learned that he had to adapt to todays football. That made all the difference in the world. Cowher actually realized that he had to teach himself new tricks.

tk13 12-19-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv
They are basically the same. Herm learned under Cowher. Cowher actually learned that he had to adapt to todays football. That made all the difference in the world. Cowher actually realized that he had to teach himself new tricks.

I don't think he changed quite as much as people like to think. There was basically one or two games in his career.. and that was those Indy and Denver playoff games they won on the way to the Super Bowl... where they kind of surprised everyone by coming out and throwing instead of running at first. But that's what a Super Bowl will do for you... nobody even cares it took over a decade for him to do it.

Even that Super Bowl winning team... they were #1 in the league in rushing attempts, and dead last, 32, in passing attempts. They were always a pound the rock/play defense team.


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