Just a few seconds after they call heads or tales, Mr. Cochise.

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Depending on how far we trade down, or how badly someone wants to move up, we could always get someone's 1st rounder next year. We have plenty of 2008 picks as it is. And if it is a weak class, would we really be looking to stockpile more?

I know that probably doesn't excite anyone now, but an extra pick first-round pick can open up a lot of possibilities. If we could trade down to the mid-teens, get a first-rounder in 2009, and still get a Michael Oher or somebody, I'd consider that a good day at the office.

if it is Laurinitus (spelling) we are doomed , he sucks he cannot read a play at al. I have watched him a few times he is a guesser just an athlete not a very good football player, way overrated.

The problem with trading for a first round pick in the next draft is you really don't know what you'll be getting.

I bet the Cowboys thought they were looking at a top 10 pick in this draft when they traded with the Browns.

Who is our designated flipper.

I'd agree with ya. But I don't think the trade down scenerio is all that likely. Here's why..........

Why does anyone trade up? Because their guy will be gone correct?

I see a scenerio where the QB's are the only top studs left when we pick at #5. Everyone in the NFL assumes we are not taking a QB so why trade up to get the QB if he's not going off the board?

No. 5 is actually fine. I was pissed when it appeared as if we'd get it, and I still wouldn't mind being higher to increase the chances at one of the better guys, but I think one of Jake Long or Glenn Dorsey will be available, as Ryan, Long and McFadden go ahead of KC, and that's the two I'm interested in.

I'm with you.

Here's a post of mine from the Draft forum re: trading down:

There it is. The answer for everything.

Nevermind that only ONCE in the last 7 years has someone traded out of a Top 5 pick, and it happened to be the #1 overall.

People say "trade down" like it's easy.

Most teams aren't willing to give up a R2 pick to move up 2 spots, or even more to move up further. Plus the right combinations of teams/available players has to be there.

Also, let's face it. This isn't the year a Joe Thomas, Orlando Pace, Carson Palmer or Peyton Manning is going to be there with someone drooling all over them.

wow carl ..... i'd heard rumors that you actually posted here but i didn't believe it.


playing the old "we didn't trade because nobody would play with us" bit just never gets old.

If the author of that article really thought those two scenarios should have produced the same results, I have a hard time believing that they made it to semi-retirement as a statistician. Those scenarios are obviously different in both structure and expected outcomes.

Did you even bother to read the rest of the post?

Add to those reasons, most teams would rather not take on the financial responsibility of a Top 5 pick contract.



Hell, even look at it from a fan perspective.

For sake of argument, lets say the Chiefs are drafting 12th. This place would be at DefCon 5 if we gave up a high R2 pick to move up a few spots.

It's not worth it, and most teams realize that. All those reasons add up to no trades out of the Top 5 since Vick/Tomlinson.

so we call tails on two headed coin.

I figured this was Herms new excuse for why we lost so many games this year...

they should play paper rock scissors imo