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RustShack 02-26-2008 11:40 PM

I don't think Bryant Johnson would break the bank, as long as hes not getting more than D'Bowe I'm OK with it. We need a player like him, and I don't want to settle for another no name player to save a few pennies.

The Franchise 02-26-2008 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4603926)
I don't know what the obsession is with wanting KU/MU/and Kstate players on the team.

I've noticed that as well....

Wilson8 02-26-2008 11:42 PM

D. J. Hackett catching 68% of balls thrown his way is pretty impressive.

Chiefs_5627 02-26-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 4603940)
I don't think Bryant Johnson would break the bank, as long as hes not getting more than D'Bowe I'm OK with it. We need a player like him, and I don't want to settle for another no name player to save a few pennies.


The only difference imo between BJ n DJ is the fact that BJ was a #1 pick. Neither has really tore it up but DJ finally got a decent chance to succeed, and was doing well, but got hurt.

Chiefs_5627 02-26-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 4603945)
D. J. Hackett catching 68% of balls thrown his way is pretty impressive.


His draft scouting report:

Hackett was the leading receiver for Colorado in 2003. His breakout '03 campaign, where he grabbed 78 passes for 1,013 yards and seven scores and was named the team's MVP, dwarfed his menial numbers in '02, in which he caught only 15 passes for 181 yards and two scores. Hackett has good size and has an amazing vertical jump, but he isn't overly fast and not a big play threat. He is more of a possession guy, and not a true number 1 receiver. Hackett could be a good second or third receiver in the NFL.

RustShack 02-26-2008 11:45 PM

BJ and DJ are probably my top two in that order, I hope we can grab one of those two. If not we have to hope we can snag a steal in the 2nd.

Wilson8 02-26-2008 11:46 PM

The point of my post was to show the http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php Web site which at least ranks the WRs and attempts to give a reason for the ranking.

Chiefs_5627 02-26-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 4603951)
BJ and DJ are probably my top two in that order, I hope we can grab one of those two. If not we have to hope we can snag a steal in the 2nd.


I wonder how much Michigan WR Mario Manningham's slower-than-expected 40 time will effect his stock. :hmmm:

Rausch 02-27-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4603926)
Justin Gage is just big and slow, I don't know what the obsession is with wanting KU/MU/and Kstate players on the team.

If you wanna sign Lloyd that's fine, I remember being pissed when we drafted Brett Williams over him.

Gage is a good blocker, great 3rd down guy, young, a team player, good hands, and he can be had cheap. Deep threat speed is his weakness.

He's a prototypical white WR. Only he's not white. :evil:

Wilson8 02-27-2008 12:07 AM

I think even if KC picks up a free agent wide receiver (Hackett, Johnson, Gage, etc.) they will try to draft a wide receiver/punt returner or cornerback/punt returner. They have no one right now that can return punts for them.

Rausch 02-27-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 4603968)
I think even if KC picks up a free agent wide receiver (Hackett, Johnson, Gage, etc.) they will try to draft a wide receiver/punt returner or cornerback/punt returner. They have no one right now that can return punts for them.

Draft one. You want a k/p returner with fresh legs. Besides, it's not hard to make the argument we need depth at RB, CB, or WR...

Wilson8 02-27-2008 12:29 AM

I first started out looking at free agent wide receivers that the Chiefs might try to sign. I then started looking at something that might rate and evaluate them. I really expected Bernard Berrian or Bryant Johnson to be the top choice in free agency. Gage was way down my list of possibilities so I was surprised to find this evaluation.

Just a reply to the obsession comment about local University players. I thought that was a bonus since Gage was a local person, but certainly not a reason to go out and sign him.

Rausch 02-27-2008 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 4603988)
I first started out looking at free agent wide receivers that the Chiefs might try to sign. I then started looking at something that might rate and evaluate them. I really expected Bernard Berrian or Bryant Johnson to be the top choice in free agency. Gage was way down my list of possibilities so I was surprised to find this evaluation.

Not as a high profile guy, definitely not. He's a contributor. Like the D lineman we had years ago that was a great guy and fill in (who was that, wrote poetry, great with charity, etc?) and we figured we could replace him easily. But we didn't.

Last year our special teams (blocking) sucked, we had no 3rd down WR the QB could depend on, and we're looking at young FA's to contribute. I'd rank him like a young Boomer/Maz/Stills type contribution. A special teamer that contributes to the ideology we claim we're adopting and brings a dimension to depth we don't currently have.

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 4603988)
Just a reply to the obsession comment about local University players. I thought that was a bonus since Gage was a local person, but certainly not a reason to go out and sign him.

Nah. To me the local I was after was Steve Martin (run stopper during the DV era) that was cut. Justin Smith (Jeff City boy) would be great but we have no need for him. I'm of the belief you only rotate DE's for the same reason you do RB's: you don't have one that's good enough to start full time...

Wilson8 02-27-2008 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 4603993)
Nah. To me the local I was after was Steve Martin (run stopper during the DV era) that was cut. Justin Smith (Jeff City boy) would be great but we have no need for him. I'm of the belief you only rotate DE's for the same reason you do RB's: you don't have one that's good enough to start full time...

I was a St. Louis Cardinals football fan before the Chiefs even were formed. The name Wilson8 was for Larry Wilson. I'm sure way before most everybody was around from here. I am now very much a Chief's fan. I enjoyed watching Roger Wehrli play at MU and then in Saint Louis. It's unusual for a local person to go on and play well for the professional sports team, but sometimes it happens.

I'm going to bed...goodnight.

bowener 02-27-2008 01:48 AM

SIPPIO!!!!!!!!!!11!!1


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