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Mr. Laz 03-20-2008 09:51 PM

i disagree .... KU isn't living by the 3.

but unlike many a season maybe they are getting used to shooting the 3 so they don't panic when they HAVE to shoot some.


build confidence so one of these other teams don't get hot behind the arc and steal a game from us.

Skip Towne 03-20-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 4642098)
i disagree .... KU isn't living by the 3.

but unlike many a season maybe they are getting used to shooting the 3 so they don't panic when they HAVE to shoot some.


build confidence so one of these other teams don't get hot behind the arc and steal a game from us.

Exactly right. KU can beat you either way. I wonder if fatass is aware KU ran up 100 on Baylor while scoring 0 threes?

Boon 03-20-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4642102)
Exactly right. KU can beat you either way. I wonder if fatass is aware KU ran up 100 on Baylor while scoring 0 threes?

Probably not. I think Golden Corral had a special all you can eat pig feet that night.
He was busy.

Skip Towne 03-20-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 88-31-10 (Post 4642121)
Probably not. I think Golden Corral had a special all you can eat pig feet that night.
He was busy.

Heh, good one 47.

Boon 03-20-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4642125)
Heh, good one 47.

Damnit!! Those are dashes not minuses.

Vegas_Dave 03-20-2008 10:21 PM

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alnorth 03-20-2008 10:40 PM

This article is a rediculous pile of crap. KU has already proven that they can beat your brains in within the paint, and a few other teams have noticed it too. With the way Texas played defense, Kansas hardly had a choice but to fire away. The longhorns clogged it up inside and dared the Jayhawks to beat them from outside, so Kansas took advantage of wide-open 3's all day.

Portland State didnt exactly play great defense, so KU could have gone inside more if they wanted, but bottom line: if a good 3-point shooter is given a wide-open shot, they should have no hesitation. When the shot is wide-open and your good enough to hit it, there's no such thing as shooting too many 3's. If the jayhawks had hands in their faces all day and still pulled 3's out of their asses, that would be different.

Duke won a lot of games for a long time with the 3-point shot. Their weakness has occasionally been a weak inside game, but Kansas is well-balanced all the way around. If UNLV roams out to the 3-point line, then you'll see more dunks and 10-foot jump shots. If UNLV decides that they cant afford to let anyone come within 15 feet of the basket, then the Jayhawks will and should fire away from outside.

Nearly every champion (other than those who are 1-dimensional and lucky) can do both, shoot it from outside and drive inside without relying too heavily on any one player.

CosmicPal 03-20-2008 10:42 PM

Honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect to Portland St, but watching the game, I immediately sensed KU thought of this as an excellent chance to get some "scrimmage" time in.

KU wasn't "relying" on anything, they were simply "going about the motions" and getting some 'play' time. They didn't pressure PS like they usually pressured their opponents on D, and they also didn't focus on play calling or setting the usual screens. A few times, early on, I noticed a lackluster attempt by KU to set screens.

I expect them to play a tenacious D against UNLV though. They will have to, 'cause the Runnin' Rebels like to run like the UNLV teams of old. And they can play a mean D as well. I expect KU to give UNLV fits.

BWillie 03-21-2008 01:21 AM

As others have noted, it is pick your poison with KU. They really have all the weapons to beat you. As complete team as I've ever seen at Kansas in the 25 years I've followed. Good teams can beat you anyway you want. If you clog the middle KU can be just as content to draining threes in your grill. If you slow it down, we will pound the ball in the middle methodically. If you chose to run with us, Chalmers will lead the break and cripple you. If you play zone, our guards amazing ball movement and Sherron Collins will break down the zone to lead to alley oops and 3 pointers.

Whitlock does realize that KU lead the Big 12 in three point % at 40% doesn't he? At 40% we really should shoot MORE threes if anything.

ceebz 03-21-2008 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 4642011)
They don't live by the three. They just take whatever the defense gives. For the most part they take open shots. I didn't see them forcing up threes.

I agree. Honestly, I thought they played pretty well for an opening round game. I expected them to come out flat, play sloppy and pull out a win late.

I thought the Jayhawks had pretty good intensity throughout.

Teams have started playing zone and packing it in to defend the post game and the interior passing game that KU runs so well. If Chalmers, Rush or Collins have wide-open looks at threes, I say they should take them.

Reerun_KC 03-21-2008 07:08 AM

ROFL
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Originally Posted by 88-31-10 (Post 4642135)
Damnit!! Those are dashes not minuses.


Mr. Plow 03-21-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal (Post 4642175)
Honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect to Portland St, but watching the game, I immediately sensed KU thought of this as an excellent chance to get some "scrimmage" time in.

KU wasn't "relying" on anything, they were simply "going about the motions" and getting some 'play' time. They didn't pressure PS like they usually pressured their opponents on D, and they also didn't focus on play calling or setting the usual screens. A few times, early on, I noticed a lackluster attempt by KU to set screens.

I expect them to play a tenacious D against UNLV though. They will have to, 'cause the Runnin' Rebels like to run like the UNLV teams of old. And they can play a mean D as well. I expect KU to give UNLV fits.


I got the same feeling. Like this was a "I'm gonna get my points" game.


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