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El Jefe 04-24-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706017)
Yep, and their names are Clady, Albert and Otah.

Man one heck of a QFT and a side of REP for you good sir.:thumb:

El Jefe 04-24-2008 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4706194)
Like fucking clockwork.

Anyone else who sees this post over the next two days, and you will ad infinitum, please refer them to this:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=166

Typical draft week crap. Talk about the same thing in 15 different threads.

PhillyChiefFan 04-24-2008 01:37 PM

If Long is there and we don't take him over Gholston I'll be upset. Gholston, IMO, is smaller than what I would like in a pass rushing DE, which is what we need.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4706326)
If Long is there and we don't take him over Gholston I'll be upset. Gholston, IMO, is smaller than what I would like in a pass rushing DE, which is what we need.

So you didn't like Jared Allen?

tooge 04-24-2008 02:07 PM

I guess I am not saying that I wouldn't want him on the team. I just dont want him with the 5th pick. And, I have read too many places (not just one internet report loser) that they are going to a zone scheme on O. Clady fits fine there.

Brock 04-24-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4706326)
If Long is there and we don't take him over Gholston I'll be upset. Gholston, IMO, is smaller than what I would like in a pass rushing DE, which is what we need.

:banghead:

Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4706326)
If Long is there and we don't take him over Gholston I'll be upset. Gholston, IMO, is smaller than what I would like in a pass rushing DE, which is what we need.

He is the same size as ALLEN, hello???

Ultra Peanut 04-24-2008 02:37 PM

I'm just going to share this, the best scouting report ever, to explain why we must draft Gholston:

2. Vernon Gholston, Ohio State

6-2¾, 263; Round 1

Overview: Junior entry with immense physical talent but questionable football character. Started at defensive end the last two years, and last season had 14 sacks and 15½ tackles for a loss. Has an impressive physique and moved into a possible top-five pick with a superb workout at the scouting combine, where he ran the 40 in 4.58 seconds, had an amazing 42-inch vertical jump and did a defensive-tackle like 37 reps on the 225-pound bench press. Has the rarest of explosive talent, but some scouts are greatly concerned by his spotty effort on game videotape.

The talk: "He's a dog. He's embarrassing. He embarrasses himself and his coach," said one longtime scout. "But about three times a game, he goes like no one's gone in about five years. He's got supernatural stuff, he really does. I don't see anybody in the last five years that has what he has. I'd have to really think back to (Dwight) Freeney or (Julius) Peppers to have the stuff he has. But he's absolutely a dog, and anybody that tells you different should be fired immediately from their job. If we were up there, I'd be scared to death and, at the same time, I'd feel my adrenalin rushing thinking maybe we could turn him on. I confronted him. I said, 'You're about the laziest SOB I've ever seen.' He didn't know how to explain it. He couldn't come back on it. He didn't get mad. I don't know. He was taken by surprise, I guess. Are you going to spend a top 10 pick on a guy? I don't know. But he's got real, real stuff. On a scale of 1 to 10, he's 10. He had 14 sacks. He should have had 30. He'd have set the world's record. They shouldn't be able to block him. He just doesn't care." … "I'd have to agree that there's periods during the game when the guy will disappear," the college scouting director for an AFC team said. "But even saying that, the guy had 14 sacks, and pass rushers are at a premium and so hard to find. If you can push his buttons just a little bit, maybe that 5 or 10 percent of the game, he plays a little harder. I think you've got something. Even saying that, I think he'll come in the league and be a double-digit sack guy, he's got that kind of ability." … "I think the guy's learning how to play a little bit," a third scout countered. "You have to know what they're being taught and what the defense is asking them to do. Because you get a lot of guys that grade tape, and if a guy's not chasing everything like crazy from the get go, they're dogging it. Well, a lot of times they're told to hang back in certain games against certain people because of tendencies. So you've got to be careful about some of that stuff."

Hammock Parties 04-24-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4706511)
He is the same size as ALLEN, hello???

He's actually shorter, which means he's a bit stouter.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4706527)
He's actually shorter, which means he's a bit stouter.

And he whipped God's ass in a street fight outside of Babylon in 954 B.C.

Chiefmanwillcatch 04-24-2008 02:48 PM

GHOLSTON isn't strong against the run. He could only play D-end like DT. Only 3rd down.

I am sure Herm didn't care for JA.

Chris LONG!

BigRock 04-24-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4706527)
He's actually shorter, which means he's a bit stouter.

There's a 3-4 inch difference in their heights. I don't say that to support the idea that Gholston can't play our scheme, but people are acting like Gholston and Allen are twins or something.

Chiefmanwillcatch 04-24-2008 03:06 PM

His tape says he can't shed and has difficulties with the run.

IF HERM says he can play end then it's ok.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefmanwillgetyou (Post 4706606)
His tape says he can't shed and has difficulties with the run.

To be honest that describes a lot of Cover 2 defensive ends.

ChiefGator 04-24-2008 03:21 PM

According to Whitlock, he is too muscular. I want some flabby sumbitch.


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