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DJJasonp 04-24-2008 11:51 PM

i love when "professionals" lack a sense of accountability and blame their lack of a "professional" performance on someone other than themselves.

These POS bastards.....have had their asses kissed since they were in high school when some recruiter convinced the kid and their mom and dad that the sun rose and set in their son's ass.....

And when the cold reality of a talent that was born primarily under the shadows of Julius Peppers rears its ugly head in the form of a wasted 1st round draft pick......the individual (and their head-in-the-sand parents) resort to blaming the organization that drafted him.

FU Sims.....look in the mirror (and in the film room)....you stink....you're not an NFL-caliber player....any paycheck you receive...and any NFLPA check you receive....make sure you send 20% of it each month to Julius Peppers you sorry POS.

wazu 04-24-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 4707982)
i love when "professionals" lack a sense of accountability and blame their lack of a "professional" performance on someone other than themselves.

These POS bastards.....have had their asses kissed since they were in high school when some recruiter convinced the kid and their mom and dad that the sun rose and set in their son's ass.....

And when the cold reality of a talent that was born primarily under the shadows of Julius Peppers rears its ugly head in the form of a wasted 1st round draft pick......the individual (and their head-in-the-sand parents) resort to blaming the organization that drafted him.

FU Sims.....look in the mirror (and in the film room)....you stink....you're not an NFL-caliber player....any paycheck you receive...and any NFLPA check you receive....make sure you send 20% of it each month to Julius Peppers you sorry POS.

Home run.

Mecca 04-24-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 4707977)
Eh, he could have signed for a little less than what he and his agent considered "market value" and still been an instant millionaire. He also could have worked out and been in playing shape when he showed up to camp. He's a perfect example of a guy who clearly felt he had "made it" the second his name was called in the draft. Game over, he wins. Actually becoming a great NFL player was something that would just be handed to him on a silver platter, along with more money. What a life.

Considering how many players the Chiefs have holdout they have to be doing something he isn't the only one...happens basically every year.

The only part I will agree with is I think the Chiefs had and still have substandard DL coaching.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4707986)
Considering how many players the Chiefs have holdout they have to be doing something he isn't the only one...happens basically every year.

The only part I will agree with is I think the Chiefs had and still have substandard DL coaching.

You should really come to camp. Yes, Krumrie yells a lot. But he also does a lot of teaching.

Mecca 04-24-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4707988)
You should really come to camp. Yes, Krumrie yells a lot. But he also does a lot of teaching.

He really needs to stop doing his bitch slap test.....

I'm just going on players he "liked" here and in Buffalo and what he worked with and what became of them, I'm not overly impressed honestly.

Hammock Parties 04-24-2008 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4707990)
I'm just going on players he "liked" here and in Buffalo and what he worked with and what became of them, I'm not overly impressed honestly.

Well if Tank and Turk bust you might have a point. But Schobel turned out pretty good...

Mecca 04-24-2008 11:59 PM

He got Buffalo to draft Tim Anderson in the 3rd because he was good at his slap fight....

How about guys like Chris Kelsay and Ryan Denny? Schobel is the only DL in Buffalo under him that was any good.

wazu 04-25-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4707986)
Considering how many players the Chiefs have holdout they have to be doing something he isn't the only one...happens basically every year.

The only part I will agree with is I think the Chiefs had and still have substandard DL coaching.

Carl pisses me off regularly with his arrogance and inability to get players in camp, so I'll agree with the frustration at the trend.

As far as coaching is concerned, Jared Allen seemed to do okay with the DL coaching he received.

Mecca 04-25-2008 12:02 AM

Some players transcend bad coaching but honestly when you have a ton of young guys and high picks and very few of them working out there's something deeper there.

keg in kc 04-25-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4707961)
Does Ronnie have an explanation as to why Ryan still sucks?

The Chiefs ruined him.

He could've been a contender!

ChiefsFanatic 04-25-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4707988)
You should really come to camp. Yes, Krumrie yells a lot. But he also does a lot of teaching.

Maybe he should do some coaching. You can tell someone about things, and that is teaching, or you could show them and train them how to do things, and that is coaching.

I have never been to camp, though, so I am just posting out of my ass.

ChiefsCountry 04-25-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4707994)
He got Buffalo to draft Tim Anderson in the 3rd because he was good at his slap fight....

How about guys like Chris Kelsay and Ryan Denny? Schobel is the only DL in Buffalo under him that was any good.

Pat Williams had his best years under him statistically.

Mecca 04-25-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 4708007)
Pat Williams had his best years under him statistically.

He was good long before Krumrie ever got there though...

stlchiefs 04-25-2008 12:15 AM

Weak article. I'm not quite sure how this is the Star ripping Carl and Herm, more like a fat POS's daddy airing his sour grapes. "My fat boy's better than he plays, it's everyone else's fault". Does a holdout explain 6 seasons of underachieving play? Does Sims playing in KC affect the fact that he still can't crack a starting roster? Did the fact he was holding out affect his ability to get his fat azz in shape? BS, I dislike Carl as much as the rest of them but this woe is me article wreaks of chit.

Frosty 04-25-2008 12:17 AM

We heard the same stuff about bad coaching from Eddie Freeman. The problem, though, is these guys don't do anything when they get to other teams with presumably better coaching. Are they somehow ruined for life by the Chiefs' coaches?

I find it easier to believe that Sims, Freeman, Downing, et al. just plain sucked.


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