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KCJohnny 04-27-2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 4720220)
Possibly but he would have had to beat out Croyle in camp to be the starter and since CP wouldn't have him signed in time for camp, it couldn't happen.

I think Croyle is being favored by the football gods.

3rd round pick.
Never a big gamer with gaudy stats.
Has the right amount of experience at the right time to grow with a young team.
Could develop a great connection with Bowe.
Will start in a run-first, play action offense.
Will not be asked to win games right away.
Has zero pressure from the bench QBs.

Brock 04-27-2008 02:54 PM

Hope I'm wrong about Croyle.

keg in kc 04-27-2008 02:54 PM

We better hope Croyle hits, because if he doesn't, the rebuild's set back another year (and by that I mean until 2010/2011) while we groom whoever we draft next year (in what may be an even worse class than this one...), unless we go the veteran free agent QB route.

KCJohnny 04-27-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4720257)
We better hope Croyle hits, because if he doesn't, the rebuild's set back another year while we groom whoever we draft next year (in what may be an even worse class than this one...), unless we go the veteran free agent QB route.

I'm guessing Brady Quinn will want out of Cleveland soon.

FloridaMan88 04-27-2008 03:05 PM

I'm glad Dictator Carl and Herm didn't draft a QB this year... let Croyle/Huard go down with the ship this year and the next regime to come in after Dictator Carl/Herm are fired can start with a clean slate and build around their own QB.

Mecca 04-27-2008 03:06 PM

I hope some QB's emerge or were gonna be waiting 2 years if this doesn't work out.

FloridaMan88 04-27-2008 03:06 PM

Croyle having to be carted away, during the Detoilet game with a WRIST injury should be a lasting image in the minds of most Chiefs fans.

Can you imagine Favre, Manning or even Trent Green being carted off the sideline with a WRIST injury?

KCJohnny 04-27-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 4720372)
I'm glad Dictator Carl and Herm didn't draft a QB this year... let Croyle/Huard go down with the ship this year and the next regime to come in after Dictator Carl/Herm are fired can start with a clean slate and build around their own QB.

That team will be 2 years into the rebuild, not exactly a winning formulae for a SB run. I think they have decided to build the 2000 Ravens or at least the 2007 Giants as their model. I bet Herm felt vindicated when the G-men upset the Pats. Old school maulball + defense vs space age pass-pass-pass and outscore your opponents.

FloridaMan88 04-27-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 4720390)
That team will be 2 years into the rebuild, not exactly a winning formulae for a SB run. I think they have decided to build the 2000 Ravens or at least the 2007 Giants as their model. I bet Herm felt vindicated when the G-men upset the Pats. Old school maulball + defense vs space age pass-pass-pass and outscore your opponents.

The Giants had a #1 overall pick at QB and he had to ultimately lead the Giants to the winning touchdown drive in the Super Bowl. This is far from the caretaker, "game manger" type QB that Herm wants to go with in 3rd round draft pick Croyle.

KCJohnny 04-27-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 4720447)
The Giants had a #1 overall pick at QB and he had to ultiamtely lead the Giants to the winning touchdown drive in the Super Bowl. This is far from the caretaker, "game manger" type QB that Herm wants to go with in 3rd round draft pick Croyle.

I won't disagree with you there. Just saying that he and Gailey seem content to build the team around a Dilferish QB scheme and a lot of running. We may be selling Croyle short. With great weapons, a rushing attack ranked a little higher than #32 and an OL that is not ranked dead last in the NFL in sacks allowed, he might look pretty hot.

Deberg_1990 04-27-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4720187)
Just means they didn't like these QB's...


I think they would have taken Ryan if he would have been there.

I think they feel they wont be seriously competing this year no matter who they drafted, so they might as well give Croyle at least one more year to prove himself.

If he fails, then they obviously will be looking to draft a QB #1 next year.

DeezNutz 04-27-2008 03:22 PM

We'll be in the FA QB mix next off-season, in all probability.

KCJohnny 04-27-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4720477)
I think they would have taken Ryan if he would have been there.

I think they feel they wont be seriously competing this year no matter who they drafted, so they might as well give Croyle at least one more year to prove himself.

If he fails, then they obviously will be looking to draft a QB #1 next year.

Seems plausible, tho I don't know why you would waste an entire NFL season on a guy who "might" be your QBotF...

ShortRoundChief 04-27-2008 03:22 PM

I think the thought here is to give him some players to work with and a chance


Last year there was no chance to evaluate him there was no running game and were constantly playing from behind

KCJohnny 04-27-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4720503)
We'll be in the FA QB mix next off-season, in all probability.

Like I said earlier, I think Brady Quinn will be looking to get out of Cleveland someday.


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