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Buehler445 05-06-2008 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4737202)
If you're smart, you draft a TE who can do both block and receive.

Amongst the four TEs we currently have, we have three TEs that can block adequately and three TEs that can receive well. That's a good problem to have.
So do you see Allan as the odd man out?

I hope not. Watching him in preseason last year, I was hoping they would give him a chance. But then again, I don't know how he progressed as the year passed.

milkman 05-06-2008 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 4737238)
I to am concerned with the Cottam pick. It is very hard to view him as anything else besides a blocking TE because he only caught 20 passes in his entire collegiate career. Almost every TE in the draft caught more passes than that in two seasons, let alone a career.

If it were me, I would have drafted Jeremy Zuttah. He would have automatically started at OG, and God knows we need the help at O Line more than a backup TE that's going to play in two TE sets. IMO, there wasn't another team in the NFL that was going to draft Cottam in the third round.

All and all, I wished that KC would have gotten some immediate starters in round 3. All 3 third round picks are going to start out as backups. Some may be third string?? While I still like the picks, I would have like KC to get one sure fire starter in round 3....That didn't happen.
I think we'll see more of Charles than you may be expecting, and I'm betting Morgan is a starter by mid-season.

Cottom was the only questionable pick, because his production was limited by injuries.

This seemed to be the only early pick based on upside, rather than production.

Direckshun 05-06-2008 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 4737284)
So do you see Allan as the odd man out?

I hope not. Watching him in preseason last year, I was hoping they would give him a chance. But then again, I don't know how he progressed as the year passed.
If he gets his blocking up to speck, I think Merritt's the odd man out.

milkman 05-06-2008 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4737902)
If he gets his blocking up to speck, I think Merritt's the odd man out.
He's gonna be a bust!

Damnit Carl!:cuss:

TRR 05-06-2008 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4737863)
I think we'll see more of Charles than you may be expecting, and I'm betting Morgan is a starter by mid-season.

Cottom was the only questionable pick, because his production was limited by injuries.

This seemed to be the only early pick based on upside, rather than production.
You may be right, but I'll take the wait and see approach. Right now, it looks like Charles is going to have to beat out Kolby Smith to even be the third down RB, and Morgan will have to make some plays if he wants to unseat Page in the starting lineup....We shall see.

Mr. Flopnuts 05-06-2008 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4736988)
And if he's as talented as we're led to believe, he'll become Tony G's replacement when he retires.

People need to quit looking at him as "just" a blocking TE.

JMO.
You're right. He's a rookie. How much do you expect from a rookie when Tony G. is your first option? He's a good blocker, fills an immediate need, and has the opportunity to blossom into a superstar.

It's a much better pick than people give it credit for. He's going to contribute significantly in the double tight end set Gailey loves to run so much while developing. Jamaal Charles, (which was a better pick IMO) won't contribute as much as Cottam will this year.

aturnis 05-06-2008 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4737863)
I think we'll see more of Charles than you may be expecting, and I'm betting Morgan is a starter by mid-season.
I couldn't agree more. I think the Chiefs will definitely use Charles a lot, big play ability and the change of speed will benefit the offense.

As for Morgan, Bill said that he will be getting a lot of playing time this year due to the fact that Gunther has some 3 safety packages.

aturnis 05-06-2008 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 4737902)
If he gets his blocking up to speck, I think Merritt's the odd man out.
The team RAVED about his blocking ability. Do you think there's a chance of a conversion? Or maybe carrying an extra TE b/c of the heavy emphasis on 2 TE sets?

aturnis 05-06-2008 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 4737922)
Morgan will have to make some plays if he wants to unseat Page in the starting lineup....We shall see.
I think Wright is wrong in this instance. I think he will be a heavy contributor. He'll be a solid backup this year, and play extensively in 3 safety packages, but if anyone isn't coming along, it's Pollard, not Page. I'd expect Pollard to sit before Page.

TRR 05-06-2008 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 4738041)
I think Wright is wrong in this instance. I think he will be a heavy contributor. He'll be a solid backup this year, and play extensively in 3 safety packages, but if anyone isn't coming along, it's Pollard, not Page. I'd expect Pollard to sit before Page.
I don't believe Morgan is a SS prospect in the NFL. I have always thought of him as a FS. He may be able to make the transition, but it may take him a bit, especially in a Cover 2 scheme like KC runs. I believe Morgan played a little bit of both SS and FS, but he only started one season at NC State, and it was at FS.

Basileus777 05-06-2008 10:55 PM
Scott Wright isn't intimately familiar with the Chiefs roster. He has a passing knowledge of the Chiefs, which is why he doesn't know that we drafted Cottam to replace Dunn or the state of our safeties. He makes some interesting points, but its not a deep analysis.

I'm not completely satisfied with the Cottam pick either, but hopefully we actually use him and he doesn't end up the next Bigfoot. Still, he was good value where we took him, and Jason Dunn was so important to our offense that even if he just ends up as a blocking TE, it wasn't a wasted pick.

JohnnyV13 05-07-2008 11:58 AM
Interesting that Scott Wright slobbers all over Brian Johnston's Johnson.

The Franchise 05-07-2008 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 4738053)
I don't believe Morgan is a SS prospect in the NFL. I have always thought of him as a FS. He may be able to make the transition, but it may take him a bit, especially in a Cover 2 scheme like KC runs. I believe Morgan played a little bit of both SS and FS, but he only started one season at NC State, and it was at FS.
So what do we do with Page then?

Direckshun 05-07-2008 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 4738850)
Interesting that Scott Wright slobbers all over Brian Johnston's Johnson.
If Johnston becomes a stud, I propose all CP members change their penis euphemism from Johnson to Johnston.

CupidStunt 05-07-2008 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4738882)
So what do we do with Page then?
Have him come off the bench and play him as a nickel safety.

That's what he should be, and probably why Herm drafted Morgan.

Page's a nice kid but he's not a starting NFL safety. At least not a very good one at all.


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