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Programmer 05-29-2008 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 4772924)
I wonder how many, or what percentage of those passes were late in the game because the Chiefs were down. Anyone know where to find something like that?

It's got to be somewhere. They keep statistics on everything in the NFL, even how many gallons you piss during the season.

The Chiefs probably have that information on their website, if they don't, every team they play this year has that information available to them. I don't think there are many secrets in the NFL.

Micjones 05-29-2008 10:06 AM

I'm still not quite sure how I feel about Chan Gailey.

I realize that he'll make for an improved offense, but that isn't saying much.

cdcox 05-29-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 4772924)
I wonder how many, or what percentage of those passes were late in the game because the Chiefs were down. Anyone know where to find something like that?

ESPN has various splits at the player level.

Here are Croyle's attempts per quarter: 36, 49, 58, 81

Here are Huard's: 66, 91, 89, 86

Total: 102, 140, 147, 167

So yes, a lot of the passes came late in the game.

Reerun_KC 05-29-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 4773212)
ESPN has various splits at the player level.

Here are Croyle's attempts per quarter: 36, 49, 58, 81

Here are Huard's: 66, 91, 89, 86

Total: 102, 140, 147, 167

So yes, a lot of the passes came late in the game.

Well we were aways behind, late in the game.

Problem is the other NFL teams failed to get the same memo that Herm and Co received. They believe you should score everytime you touch the ball... Sure didnt stop them from handing us our hats weekly..

So silly NFL posers, Scoring each time you touch the ball... ROFL Lets see how they stack up against the real NFL teams?

DaKCMan AP 05-29-2008 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief (Post 4773135)
Someone above mentioned that Chan's offense will me much better than last year. I agree ... but, the real question is will it get us to the S.B.??? I don't think it will. How is 6-10 any better than 4-12.

Do you think ANY offense will get this team to the Super Bowl? The answer is no. This season is all about improvement and player development.

DaKCMan AP 05-29-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 4773212)
ESPN has various splits at the player level.

Here are Croyle's attempts per quarter: 36, 49, 58, 81

Here are Huard's: 66, 91, 89, 86

Total: 102, 140, 147, 167

So yes, a lot of the passes came late in the game.

Those numbers are meaningless without the rushing attempts per quarter splits as well.

Reerun_KC 05-29-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4773218)
Do you think ANY offense will get this team to the Super Bowl? The answer is no. This season is all about improvement and coaching development.

Lets see if our coaching staff can take the much needed steps forward to prove they are legitimate NFL quality coaches....

DaKCMan AP 05-29-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4773228)
Lets see if our coaching staff can take the much needed steps forward to prove they are legitimate NFL quality coaches....

What do you consider proof of legitimate quality NFL coaching? Overall record? Playoff appearances? Playoff victories? SB victories?

Demonpenz 05-29-2008 10:26 AM

Pound the rock throw some play action when the time comes. Run some screens and play Defense. Pretty much what champions do

Tribal Warfare 05-29-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4773244)
Pound the rock throw some play action when the time comes. Run some screens and play Defense. Pretty much what champions do



That's what the 90's Cowboys did, and they did alright

cdcox 05-29-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4773225)
Those numbers are meaningless without the rushing attempts per quarter splits as well.

Well, since the statistic quoted in the article was based on number of passing attempts, it shows that most of the attempts came late.

You are asking a different question, which is pass freqency by quarter. I'm in the process of putting together those stats both by quarter and by down.

CosmicPal 05-29-2008 10:29 AM

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“We’re trying to score one more point than the other guy,” he said.
Well, Herm's gotta love that. :shake:

Whatever happened to, "We're going to blow the doors on these fuggers and score 'til they bleed and leave Arrowhead with their tail between their legs!"

Hammock Parties 05-29-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4773246)
That's what the 90's Cowboys did, and they did alright

Cowboys ran the same offense we did under Vermeil. Just called it differently to suit their personnel.

By the way, Aikman's YPA was fairly high during the SB years, because the Cowboys threw the ball down the field. Not a hallmark of Herm's offense.

Micjones 05-29-2008 10:40 AM

The fact that this team may or may not be competitive this season is no reason to install an offense that won't benefit them once they've turned the corner.

We should still be taking positive steps in the right direction.

Fish 05-29-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal (Post 4773252)
Well, Herm's gotta love that. :shake:

Whatever happened to, "We're going to blow the doors on these fuggers and score 'til they bleed and leave Arrowhead with their tail between their legs!"

We're a rebuilding team with an offensive line full of guys that haven't played with each other.

What happens when Gailey says yeah we're gonna score 50 more points than those fools....

And then the offense struggles, which is very likely with this young group....

Everybody would be calling for his head after the 2nd or 3rd game....

"You said you were going to score a bunch of points. You suck Chan! Liar"


People are reading into this waaaay too much...


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