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dj56dt58 09-07-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 4993762)
A safety gives us 2 points and the result of a free kick. Punting out of the endzone sets us up pretty well on O. I'm not convinced that the small probability of getting a safety is a better play than forcing them to punt out of the endzone.

do you know what we would have done with that good field position? I'll help you

run run swing pass punt

result: 0 points

Coogs 09-07-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 4993728)
Christ, here we go again.

The odds are that the Patriots weren't going to pass given the situation they were in. Since the Chiefs had come so close to forcing a safety on first and second down, it made sense for Gunther to go for the big play.

People will honestly bitch no matter what. Maybe if Patrick Surtain wasn't such a slow ****er they would have forced a punt. But blame Gunther.

Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Stinger 09-07-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 4993785)
Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Only thing I could think of was maybe looking/waiting for a replay to see if it was a safety and then challenge the play?

noa 09-07-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 4993785)
Why the TO? Stupidest call of the game IMO. I think the Pats go 3-and-out without the TO, and we have the ball at midfield at the worst. I knew when we took the TO it was going to backfire.

Exactly, we had momentum and killed it. Did them a favor.

irishjayhawk 09-07-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4993768)
Well they both suck but we have 0 LB's if they're gonna put another safety out there didn't they just draft DaJuan Morgan?

Well, this administration has been a bit unforgiving to new players. Medlock is a good example. Why draft a kicker if he misses one FG and is effectively gone?


I do agree, if we draft them why not play them. On the job training!

boogblaster 09-07-2008 08:58 PM

McGraw is a friend of the Edwards family .. Surtain & McGraw both blew it ... And yes it helped the Patties too win ...

cdcox 09-07-2008 08:58 PM

The Chiefs sold out to stop the run the first two plays. It is pretty clear they are going to do it again. The Pats probably figured they would get a couple yards at most by trying to run again. The Pats figure, why not go maximum protection, and see if Randy Moss can beat single coverage? If he's covered you punt from deep in your endzone, just like you would by running.

Gun counted on Belichick to be stupid. Gun practically forced the Pats to take a shot down the field. Then we act surprised.

One of the things a good coaching does is to keep the other team guessing. We don't even try do that. We telegraph 90% of what we are trying to do. Our coaching staff willfully concedes a whole aspect of the game. They contribute zero to the mental and strategic aspects of football.

Hammock Parties 09-07-2008 08:59 PM

They called a timeout because there was going to be a quarter break if they didn't. That would have given the Patriots even MORE time to think about what they wanted to do.

Coogs 09-07-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 4993793)
Only thing I could think of was maybe looking/waiting for a replay to see if it was a safety and then challenge the play?

:shrug: Maybe. I knew we were screwed as soon as we took the TO though.

irishjayhawk 09-07-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 4993810)
The Chiefs sold out to stop the run the first two plays. It is pretty clear they are going to do it again. The Pats probably figured they would get a couple yards at most by trying to run again. The Pats figure, why not go maximum protection, and see if Randy Moss can beat single coverage? If he's covered you punt from deep in your endzone, just like you would by running.

Gun counted on Belichick to be stupid. Gun practically force the Pats to take a shot down the field. Then we act surprised.

One of the things a good coaching does is to keep the other team guessing. We don't even try do that. We telegraph 90% of what we are trying to do. Our coaching staff willfully concedes a whole aspect of the game. They contribute zero to the mental and strategic aspects of football.

:clap:

Mecca 09-07-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 4993809)
McGraw is a friend of the Edwards family .. Surtain & McGraw both blew it ... And yes it helped the Patties too win ...

I honestly think the only reason McGraw is on this team is because he's Herms friend.

Coach 09-07-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4993819)
I honestly think the only reason McGraw is on this team is because he's Herms friend.

Same reason why this Jones guy who plays G for the Chiefs is on the team.

Coach 09-07-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 4993885)
Same reason why this Jones guy who plays G for the Chiefs is on the team.

Or Ron Edwards as well.

philfree 09-07-2008 09:43 PM

It's plain and simple. Surtain blew the coverage and let Moss run free.

PhilFree:arrow:

Zouk 09-07-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 4993810)

Gun counted on Belichick to be stupid. Gun practically forced the Pats to take a shot down the field. Then we act surprised.

Of course Belichick did the exact same thing to us with the Devard Darling play. Gave huge chunks of yards to an offense that could not get them absent unneccessary risk from the defense.

Both defensive calls were very very stupid.


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